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“It doesn't feel safe”—Many international game developers plan to skip GDC in US (arstechnica.com)

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[–] greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 141 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Maybe they should move GDC somewhere less terrible for a couple years. Let Japan have it or something.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 41 points 7 months ago

Brilliant Idea!

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 points 7 months ago

There is a gamedev conference that accompanies Gamescom in Germany every year.

https://dev.gamescom.global/

It has lived in the GDCs shadow up until know, but game (the organisation that organises the whole thing) should understand this as a chance

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 93 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

"I make video games for a living and have absolutely never said anything problematic or polarizing on social media. Can't wait to cruise through airport security and immigration without a care in the world."

~ Nobody, Ever

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

I feel personally attacked

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

"And I'm clearly white, with very christian-like appearance."

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 83 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Given how big the LGBTQ+ community is in the games industry, they really need to host this in Vancouver or Toronto until things settle down in the USA.

[–] example@reddthat.com 53 points 7 months ago (4 children)

why return to US?

[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 months ago

Exactly. USA can GTFO

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[+] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 7 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 33 points 7 months ago

Oddly that scares me less than the ones under payroll.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm not gonna say gun violence isn't a problem here but...this reminds me of rightwingers going on about violence in Chicago. The reality is that most of the gun violence is isolated to certain areas and Chicago is a big place....the US is even bigger.

And it's not like you're being invited to visit a high school

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We have lost 1.5 million people to gun violence the last three decades. More than every US soldier in every war combined. To pussy foot around with this is pretty ridiculous.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's not downplaying it at all, I'm saying gun violence being a significant factor in choosing not to travel in the US is pretty ridiculous.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Gun violence in the U$ is absolutely ridiculous. Not wanting to travel to a country that looses population to preventable issues like this is a no brainer.

https://theconversation.com/us-gun-crime-why-tourists-are-being-warned-to-avoid-and-beware-205906

Countries even warn their citizens like the US is some kind of violent third world nation. It would be embarrassing if the US gave a fuck, but they don't.

[–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As someone who grew up in one of the more dangerous cities in the US, you generally have to be making obviously risky decisions to get shot by most of the (legally or otherwise) gun carrying population. The biggest risk by far, and why I actually would not suggest people visit the US right now, is the government and ICE being totally out of control. They're more likely to shoot a tourist than a regular local

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Meh, I have seen someone shot over road rage and it wasn't even their fault. I have been robbed at gun point in Tri-cities in Eastern Washington, not exactly a big city. I know a women who got murdered by her husband for talking to another man.

A lot of people die senselessly from guns in the US, but I get your point.

[–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not denying that it's a problem, just trying to provide context to the idea that everyone in the US will shoot you just for existing or that bullets are just constantly whizzing through the air at all hours.

I've had guns pointed at me as well, and funnily enough, more have been from jumpy pigs than from regular people

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

Oh, it's worse than that. The USA is arguably now a second-world country.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

/r/shit_americans_say

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What proportion of those are people visiting for work or tourism?

It's ridiculous to downplay in the sense of the domestic response. But in terms of risk in this context, it's not a factor.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Perception is more important than actual risk to most people. This is especially poignant considering you don't have to visit the US on vacation and can just go somewhere else.

Let me ask you this, if you knew a nation was at war and losing about 50k citizens every year to said war would you want to visit? I think most sane people would say no.

I am reminded of the UK citizen who just went to visit her father in Texas who shot her after explaining it would be okay for Trump to rape her because he has other daughters.

I mean I am sorry, but the US is now worse than backwards Middle Eastern countries that are also statistically pretty damned safe. Doesn't mean people want to visit either though.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (8 children)

The mind boggles that you understand this but want to encourage people to do the irrational thing instead of put the statistics in context. I get not trying to persuade people the US is safe to travel to (from the pov of gun violence) but why would you try to persuade them that it isn't???

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[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Still, even the safest US states would rank among the most dangerous EU countries in terms of gun violence and gun related homicides.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't dispute that (I'd even wager that the safer state is worse than the most dangerous eu country) but it's not like it's commonplace to get killed by a stranger. You're more likely to die during travel unless you're specifically traveling to dangerous neighborhoods

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's true. I used to travel to Saint Louis quite regularly for work about ten years ago. It always seemed fine, at least on the surface.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hilariously one of the more statistically dangerous cities in the country lol

I lived in Chicago for over 20 years and while I did see someone ditch a stolen car and escape the stereotypically-fat cops by jumping on a train, I never even heard gunfire.

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I know. It still feels odd to me as a Dutchman though to know that there's dozens of gun related crimes going on all the time.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I don't love it either but you and I are probably have a similar chance of dying to gun violence even if the statistics say I'm 200% more likely to

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

When I wanted to visit the uNazied States of america the guns being prevalent wasn't an issue. I'd have to be very unlucky to get shot whilst visiting the attractions I wanted to see.

Now, admittedly, it was a long time ago when I thought about visiting, and it was more like a "if I ever win the lottery then I'll visit xxxx place" type thing.
Then their 2016 elections came along and ever since then there's no fucking chance I'd ever go. You couldn't pay me to visit.
What's the point in having loads of cash if I'm being detained and locked up for who knows how long, and then being deported to an El Salvadorian death camp!!

[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 7 months ago

the ticket is 500-1000 usd anyway. like wtf lol.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 26 points 7 months ago

It isn't safe.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

World cup teams should also skip the usa

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Strong 1930s Germany vibes

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