Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
- Keep the comments in YPTB posts about the moderation action itself, not about the general topic in which the moderation took place.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms
Welcome to the fediverse
Instead of one u/spez, we have several dozen mini spez here. Many instance owners will instance ban users just for one comment where you forget or don’t want to place an /s after your comment.
Many of these people are young, inexperienced and have therefore no true insight in the power they wield, not of the consequences this type of behaviour has on the overall success chances of a platform that struggles to get 6 digit monthly active users.
But the most interesting part of this is that these type of comments/ criticisms are downvoted by an army of users who apparently don’t mind totalitarianism in a digital space.
But the most interesting part of this is that these type of comments/ criticisms are downvoted by an army of users who apparently don’t mind totalitarianism in a digital space.
I feel that's a bit much. If you feel like you got banned and silenced, nothing stops you from:
- Not interacting with them
- Not being on their instance
- Blocking the mods/admins
- Spinning up your own instance with better rules
Mods can be weird, but it's not totalitarianism. The term uses to describe Hitler and Stalin isn't when you get a comment removed on the internet. Unless you're terminally online and think your comment removed on a niche internet forum is on par with the SS bursting into your home on suspicion that you're Jewish.
PTB. There have been some mods of the AI specific comms here on db0 that are more than a little ban happy, and who pre-emptively ban people for participating in anti-ai subs.
That said, we also have a number of users that have come to this sub to whine when they refuse to block the AI subs for themselves and just downvote everything from them.
There's a huge amount of Brigadoon related to AI content. People downvote and stalk the communities instead of just blocking them. I think the heavy handedness is justified, and I've even been on the wrong side of it (getting banned for posting in fuck AI).
I don't know why the autocorrect gave me that but I'm keeping it.
You could ask Draconic_NEO directly. No idea how that will go but the good news is that if you don't participate in those communities, there's really no impact on your use of the site.
@draconic_neo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Care to help us figure out why I was banned from these communities?
Odds are high that user blocked you along with the ban.
Message from Draconic who did the ban: "[The] ban was a mistake and will be removed."
I'm locking the post now because it's attracting a lot of trolls.
[Edited for clarity]
I think the mod might have jumped the gun a bit too fast on that. But I don't know the full story nor am I in the mood to go digging.
Some communities on Lemmy don't want any pushback, any at all.
You can get banned for making benign comments on uncontroversial topics if the mod is in such a mood. That's Lemmy.
Atleast on Lemmy/PieFed we have communities like this we can call them out in, or use/create alternative communities on the same topic etc.
Lemmy is small. Like, it generally doesn't matter if you get banned from some niche community. But when there so so few communities to begin with, mostly there are no alternative spaces.
I would like to point out that the troll accounts being made to spam Draconic's name, especially after banning someone, is probably part of the reason why moderation is strict.
Draconic in the last month has had several users mass harass them, for either not supporting Israel or saying they don't mind what users do on their private computers.
dbzer0 is a pro-AI instance (not corporate AI like ChatGPT or Grok), maybe that's why?
I'm not against AI, I use it a lot and it is useful, you just need to know what to use it for and to not trust it with anything serious.
But it's not all positive AI is bad in many ways for me the privacy risks are huge and something people should worry about.
Wild to ban me for saying something bad about AI
This was a mod-ban btw, so you seem to have annoyed the mod who's moderating all those comms.
Would like to at least know what I did to annoy them this much.
Look's who's the common mod, and ping them?
It's @draconic_neo@lemmy.dbzer0.com .
Care to help understand why I was banned from all those communities?
Generally they don't ban for anti-ai sentiment, unless you're going to the AI comms and being a dick or downvoting everything in them instead of just blocking them.
My account is on the instance and I'm semi active in a few specifically anti-ai comms, and I've never had any problems.
Yep, they only ban users who cause issues within the community. Most of the ban logs say that they went into a community they don't like, started things, got banned. Then they get mad that no one wanted to clean up a mess.
Banning people for posts they make in an entirely different community should be wrong. But sadly there’s no good way to enforce that.
Users should still be allowed to block communities after being banned from them.