that's stupid. If I wanted a PC I'd have bought a PC.
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Yeah, but now you can buy a PC and pay an xbox subscription. Isn't this exciting, everybody?
Saying this is the death of the platform is stupid. Worst case, it's at least better than current Xbox, which doesn't have the option to play PC games. Yeah, it's going to have all of M$'s spywhere and AI slop, but so would any MS device. I'm not buying this crap, but if you already wanted an Xbox then this is an improvement. Yeah, you're better off with a PC, especially one running Linux. This has been the case for decades, yet the consoles still sell.
Death of the “platform” as in dedicated hardware designed purely to play games.
Going forward “Xbox” games will just be Windows games.
So yes by my definition, it’s dead as dead as Elvis …
Isn't the whole point, since the Xbox One, that they didn't want it to just play games? We don't consider it dead just because it does more stuff. I guess you can have whatever definition you want for your personal view, but I don't really think anyone else would agree with it. It's still going to be a Microsoft controlled platform that's typically in the living room on a TV. Most people would say it's dead when they stop having a device in the living room, not when that device gets extra features.
Is anything in the tech world interesting or good any more? I remember being excited 20 years ago for new inventions. Now its slop, slop, slop, authoritarian surveillance fascism, slop slop slop
Foss projects and indie games are about the only interesting thing now.
I'll go back to 2005 soon as someone invents a Foss time machine !

Is anything in the tech world interesting or good any more?
Steam Machine?
I've been enjoying the advances in escape room games. mc2games makes some good ones.
The HL2 VR mods are pretty good if you have a headset. Reloading a gun with your physical hands is pretty immersive.
There's been a silent rise in mystery-themed (Ace Attorney adjacent) games in the East recently. The mysteries get better and better.
Russian games have been innovating a bit to attract Western customers. "No I'm not Human" is one of those. There are also some Russian visual novels that are good thrillers.
Of the games China makes that aren't gachaslop, some have tried to innovate. This one syncs what the character doing with real world time. So if it would take 10 minutes for a character to do something, it would take 10 actual minutes. The game doesn't even have to be on during those 10 minutes, so it can be something where you check in every now and then.
Handheld emulation devices
Imagine a non-FOSS time machine
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I still tune into TechQuickie every once in awhile and I noted how start the difference is between shows like that today and five years ago. All news is bad news anymore.
Once we created standards to create everything we see today it became to expensive to invest in alternative home grown solutions. Sadly with the focus of maximizing profit over innovation most ideas just revolve around the existing infrastructure in place to do what they want. I hate it as well and everything feels very stagnant.
Good, I'm sick of playing lowest common denominator console ports. Develop for PC and let the consoles have the degraded experience, not the other way around!
I didn't get one and my kids didn't get one. Microslop!
I do not trust that Microsoft will be doing anything other than pushing subscription-based streaming. Call me when they have a robust storefront selling games on par with Steam and hardware that allows you to play these games on or offline. Until then, imma press X to doubt.
This is the logical progression—the console wars were bad for consimers. I don't mourn Xbox.
I actually think it's a great idea. The problem is that Microslop is behind it.
Yeah it can be , and Steam already did it and better. But it’s still not a console experience. It’s closer but it’s not equivalent. And for what Xbox has represented this isn’t it …
I think it's "console enough" that it could still work. Current consoles are really just locked-down PCs anyways.
It'd be no different than the OtherOS functionality on first-run PS3 consoles that allowed them to boot into Linux. Perhaps simpler than that even, given that current consoles already use standard PC hardware and not the Cell architecture the PS3 ran on.
Good riddance. All consoles are cancer, by their walled-garden nature.
i think this is a bit over dramatic. seems more the next logical step in the "console" world
You know, I'm okay with this. If it makes PC gaming more accessible, and if it offers meaningful competition for the Steam Machine, it's good to have options. Sure it's Windows, but if it's just a PC running an Xbox UX, I'm sure you could change the OS to whatever else if you want.
If anything, it does make the PS6 a less appealing choice, because why pick a dedicated console when you can get an (assuming) comparably strong, comparably priced gaming PC?
To me there is some value in having a true console experience. Put a disc in you know it works. Download a game and it plays as good as you can.
Even with Steam Deck you can download games that won’t work or won’t work well.
A lot of people don’t have the patience for that. And so long as consoles can stay under the PC equivalent price I think there will be value.
The issue is most games nowadays don't work on day one, and you'll probably have to download patches for it. The main selling point of plug and play for consoles is almost irrelevant with current publisher (and possible development) practices in the industry.
And this is why Sony pulled games from PC. The Steam Machine was just another reason. PCs in general are now consoles too, and Sony is afraid their traditional console loses meaning.
Consoles meant something back when commodity PC hardware was not good at playing games - at least not for a consumer-accessible price.
The specialized rendering processors of the NES and SNES and Sega Genesis could push pixels without all the distractions a CPU has, in away they were the first GPUs (although modern GPUs do a much more generalized job).
You don’t need that anymore though, a PC can do it all. You don’t even need to be on a specific OS anymore for most games.
Form factor or other novel hardware is going to be the only thing anyone can do; I think this is why Nintendo didn’t bother to make a behemoth console and try to compete with PS5
I mean, Sony & Microsoft consoles are basically PCs with a custom OS now already (PS4 onwards, and Xbox One both used x86-64 CPUs).
There are fewer and fewer reasons to buy a specific (and expensive) piece of hardware that is less flexible in terms of functionality than the alternatives, so this is Sony trying to protect their own fiefdom.
Fuck ‘em.
Sounds great honestly, locked down console hardware is such an aging concept. If Valve manages to pull off the Steam Machines, it's proof that we've past the age of consoles. Except Nintendo I guess, they've always been a special case somehow.