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I agree with it’s interpretation of the bible/Christianity, relating to many other religions before it, not just Egyptian:

Jesus was never real and was not recorded by dozens of scribes that were in the place at the same time (one famous example was debunked hundreds of years ago). He’s a sun-god astrological myth, like Horus and others before and they all share similar attributes.His purpose was to signal the start of the age of Pisces (two fish), and the winter solstice will see the sun rise (after 3 days of apparent stagnation) in the Aquarius constellation in 2150 or so. His resurrection is celebrated at Spring equinox, or Easter, when the sun finally overpowers the darkness.His purpose regarding factualization was a political move by the Romans and the Catholic church, setting the calendar year 1 to the start of the age of Pisces.

It's the archetype for a lot of what I hate about YouTube. I was actually kind of mad at the friend who recommended it to me

Bro, [obvious truism]. Brooo, [obvious truism]. Brooooo, [conspiracy theory].

Alex Jones, American radio host, conspiracy theorist and executive producer of Loose Change, stated that film segments of Zeitgeist are taken directly from his documentary Terrorstorm, and that he supports "90 percent" of the film.

It's nonsense garbage.

Definitely a "I am 14 and this is deep" film basically Walt Disney's full epcot design combined with socialism by another name.

Loved it at 15. Now I know better.
I think it got a few things right, but its not a film I'd be proud of liking today.

Outstandingly idiotic piece of shit.

Was this the one that spent the first half trying to explain that all religions were based on Egyptian mythology before awkwardly jumping to 9-11 stuff?

I think I remember burning this on DVD back in the day before watching it and being confused and disappointed.

I was fascinated by it when I was young. Now I think it was one of the points where internet conspiracy theories started. How the "documentation" was told is very much manipulating.

it's been 20 years, they already had a community in some random place.

How did it turn out for them?

*checks wikipedia*

Jack shit.

Zeitgeist was first linked to the Venus Project, which had been founded by Jacque Fresco in 1985. In April 2011, partnership between the two groups ended in an apparent power struggle, with Joseph commenting, "Without [the Zeitgeist Movement], [the Venus Project] doesn’t exist – it has nothing but ideas and has no viable method to bring it to light."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Venus_Project

https://www.thevenusproject.com/about/history/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacque_Fresco

Jacque died. The film is all BS.

Alex Jones is everything he railed against, and all of his bullshit was performative. It's so satisfying to hear Dan from Knowledge Fight rip his dumbass arguments apart and expose how much he lies and makes up shit.

Also what the bleep do we know. Vaguely remember it starts kinda ok, then gets to spiritual BS and uses quantum woo as justification for it.

I don't remember what all it touched on, but I do remember giving some of it more consideration than it was probably worth, and the other parts I thought were just too crazy.

IIRC I watched it at some point, and it was boilerplate Infowars era "THEY are controlling you!" and fearmongering as a sales pitch. It's a good reminder that it used to be a lot harder than posting some garbage on YT to make some "90 minutes of saying nothing" content.

I remember the part about the RFID chips in every person being the most shocking part as a kid. Honestly with smartphones and the modern internet, we're not really that far off from what was speculated on that topic.

The film is over indulgent claptrap but a broken clock is right twice a day or whatever.

Can someone link to context? I have no idea what op is talking about and I'm too busy to duck duck go it.

Haven't seen it but everything I read about it in the last two decades suggests that, yeah, as a 13-year-old I would've gobbled that shit up and as an adult I'd probably only make it through with enhancing substances and fellow-minded people to riff on it.

I bet it didn't foresee Trump becoming president!

watched it again recently. loved it. i get the hate though fo sho.

its out there for sure. but then again this was made before we knew that a pedophile shadow elite was manipulating online spaces into far right extremist shitholes so they can further an agenda of global control and systematically dismantling democracy whenever they could.

also apparantly aliens suddenly exist now right before the US invades iran

fuckin moon bears, man. crazy shit.