Not really looked down on, but every time I mention that I have an indoor greenhouse everyone assumes I'm growing pot.
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Is your ganja good, though?
Asking the important questions.
Not really looked down on
You mean near universally championed as cool?
How much are your electric costs for the greenhouse per month?
Drawing fetishist NSFW art. A friend of mine was (and probably still is, I just haven't had any contact with them for ages) pretty good at drawing. If you're into hentai and/or furry stuff, there's a non-zero chance you've seen his work. He also did some more "exotic" drawings on commission.
He (allegedly) wasn't particularly into it himself, but he was good at it, he had a creative outlet, and it gave him a couple of extra bucks per month.
Apparently there are quite a few art majors who turn their "useless" art degree into a living by making hentai, especially furry stuff.
I'd go one further and say kink itself!
Sure it's not for everyone... But people act like it's some crazy abomination, when most of the time it's just some variation of sex + roleplay.
I had a friend of a friend who is a bona fide Dom. She was particularly wealthy considering the reputation of the sex trade. Her practice catered to Financial District and C-Suite types who could afford her services. She told me these powerful people invariably develop a kink where they want to be dominated and humiliated as a "grass is always greener on the other side" reaction to their usual position of power and dominance. What blew my mind is that she said sexual release during sessions was a minority. Most got that at home from trophy spouses. They craved the psychology of bondage, domination and humiliation. Clientele included women too.
Humans are weird and wonderful.
As a woman very involved in the lifestyle scene (as opposed to the professional scene). Yeah, there's a lot of reasons people wind up into it, and what your friend describes is the cliche stereotype of the person who pays for pros, but a lot of the lifestylers are similar to a lesser degree.
And yeah it's not a given that you're even allowed to have sexual release in a kink event, and sometimes it has to be in a specific room. The sensations, the mind games, the role play, the pain, etc. is often the primary thing happening to the exclusion of other stuff. A surprising amount of bdsm events are just discussion groups and classes.
I'm reasonably vanilla myself, but I know that if I liked something "weird", people judging me for it wouldn't help anyone, least of all myself.
I've known a few furries over the years, and while I don't understand it, being in the periphery of the community numbed me enough to "weirder" stuff. They're not hurting anyone (well, other than their wallets. Do you have any idea how much a pursuit costs? Jfc...), so I don't see why they're not any less deserving of acceptance than people who prefer ass over tits, etc.
Pretty much anything that’s considered “childish”. Apart from video games, Lego comes to mind.
Lego is a great one, good answer.
Any children's TV show, anyone who still watches My Little Pony as an adult is seen either as childish or as a creep (if male).
Because it is weird, to be honest. There's no shame in watching children's cartoons in general, but the problem is when people go out of their way to promote it. A lot of us don't really need to know, especially those that go the extra mile to re-create their saturday morning routines down to wearing PJs and eating cereal to watch cartoons. If you're going to put that out there, then you can't expect people to not judge you a little over it or get a head tilt.
There are just somethings that should be reserved and enjoyed in private.
Wargaming or anything that brings people to a hobby shop. Trains, RC vehicles, and kites are most acceptable and understandable to people on the outside but still looked down on.
The Satanic Panic never went away. I still deal with it on occasion.
Apparently Hell is full of gay people playing dnd and other tabletop games. Sounds like a fun place, honesty!
Skateboarding
I remember video games having a helluva stigma when I was a kid in school. People mocked me for playing Pokemon. If you were to look at them now, they probably play it religiously.
That aside, I feel like tabletop miniatures get similar dislike. Some people are like "That's cool" but the common layman just think it's playing with expensive toys.
Masturbating in private.
I know it isn't what you meant, but my head keeps putting the emphasis on the "in private" part, like everyone is fine with it in public, but those weird-o's doing it in private are disgusting.
BDSM
Like fully a third of the population is into it, but the stigma is so strong that the IRL community is tiny and weird.
Video games are a bigger industry than Hollywood now, are they really looked down upon still?
Now that there are parents that grew up as gamers, it's settled down some, but many still consider watching TV or movies for a few hours more respectable than playing games for a few hours.
Yes.
The difference is between "things that are acceptable to do" vs "things that are acceptable hobbies."
It's like saying "I watch trashy tv as a hobby" - it implies that it takes up a considerable amount of your time, you put a non-negligible amount of effort or money into it, you might be trying to improve at it, or you consider this a significant part of your identity. It isn't just "how you unwind" or "a guilty pleasure" - it is a significant part of your life.
What is the difference between acceptable and unacceptable hobbies? Acceptable hobbies improve the individual engaged in them and the world around them, while unacceptable hobbies degrade the individual and the world around them (as measured by the amorphous cultural consensus of the time). Hence:
Acceptible hobbies:
- Woodworking
- Cooking
- Soccer
- Dancing
- Painting
- Gardening
- Reading
- Playing the guitar
These hobbies have the effect of making the individual more active, more social, more creative, and more learned, while also often providing things to others.
Unacceptable hobbies:
- Watching TV
- Playing video games
- Drinking
- Smoking
- Gambling
These hobbies have, at best, a neutral effect on the individual or society.
Of course, many here will be offended, and will say "hey, I use gaming as my main form of social interaction with friends who live on the other side of the country - you're making invalid assumptions here!" Well, sure - but this isn't about my personal opinion of gaming. It is about society as a whole's general perception of it. Argue with me all you want - it doesn't change the perception of all of society.
Similarly, many will rightly point out "Hey, that middle aged mom spends hours every day on Candy Crush! I shouldn't be judged any worse than her!" Sure - but again, she doesn't consider Candy Crush to be a hobby. It is just something to kill dead time in her day. She might be an addict - but she isn't admitting it, even to herself.
Mushroom hunting; most people think the only mushrooms you find in the woods are magic or poisonous
Toys collecting. Especially dolls and or stuffed animals.
When a guy collects Pokémon figures, that's fine and cool.
However when I like to buy myself Bratz dolls and Hello Kitty stuff and cute plushies, I'm told I am childish and I need to grow up🙄😒
Napping. Not everyone understands the fun that can be had.
Model train building can be considered a bit weird, but it's one of the most wholesome and welcoming communities you can find.
Sometimes I visit the subreddit for it and am reminded of what that site used to be. Genuine engagement, people just happy to show things off and providing really in depth feedback or tips when asked.
poll dancing
People get together and dance when they vote? Weird - no shade or anything but haven’t heard of that before.
I would blame this on autocorrect but lord knows I don't use my phone for anything. Take your upvote
Watching Youtube videos. It's as good as college for anyone with a little savvy. I'll bet that Youtube employs more PHD philosophers than any three universities.
Ha! Employed PHD Philosophers. That's a good one!
It’s as good as college
No, it's not. I've heard this line from a few conspiracy and woo groups like flat-Earthers and Pleiadians. I'm not saying you are one of those folks, but those are the people who are most vocal about the idea. They believe that just because the information is presented, they'll become the experts for passively consuming it. But since they've never been to school beyond high school, they're missing the entire school context, the study culture, the discipline, the challenges to prove your knowledge, the hands-on experience, the contents of the lectures from the point of view of top professionals, and the guidance that a university offers.
There may be a few prodigies out there who really learn the material on their own, and that's amazing. But for the typical person, the effort and perseverance required is so demanding that they won't realistically stick with it before it becomes incredibly overwhelming and tedious, especially while on a platform known for its distractions.
Depends a lot on what you are watching
My first thought was gaming as well. The hobby isn't problematic, but god damn are so many gamers themselves the problem.
Masturbation