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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah it's correct, but if I may offer an alternate plan:

Simply don't watch Eva.

[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll watch Eva instead of going to therapy and you can't stop me!! (Neither can my doctor)

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 5 points 2 years ago

This is very accurate to the people I've met that love Eva and even myself when I loved it lmao

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Eva is fantastic now that the rebuilds actually have a somewhat uplifting ending that gives perfect closure. I detested Eva for many years but my mind was changed by the rebuilds

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

First follow one of the flowcharts to figure out if Eva is for you tho.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I've wanted to try Evangelion but I have no idea what's the right way to watch it 😂

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Evangelion is an experience. As others have said, I wouldn't even bother trying to find the best way to consume it, just watch, and revisit once you get over the initial "wtf was that" feeling.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

Fate/Stay Confused

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • Original series (all 26 episodes)
  • End of Evangelion (optional, but recommended. This happens chronologically at the same time as Ep 25 and 26)
  • Everything else (optional, not recommended)

The OG series is the story Anno wanted to show. Some fans wanted a more concrete ending, so Anno gave them a concrete ending in EoE. Then some fans wanted a happy ending where Shinji gets the girl so Anno said fuck it, sold out, and made a series with a happy ending where Shinji gets a girl. But now some fans want a happy ending where Shinji gets the right girl so Anno gave up on them as lost causes and went and directed Shin Godzilla.

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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago

It doesn't matter what order you watch it your first time around, you're not going to understand what the fuck is going on unless you watch a five hour video essay anyway.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wouldn't bother with anything weird, just watch the series through and then the movies in release order. It might not be "optimal" but I don't think it needs to be. You can skip Death, though, since it's just a recap (there was originally a year between the end of the series and EoE)

[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just watch it through, or the way like from that pic. End of Evangelion is an alternate version of episodes 25 and 26, and the rebuild movies are meant to be watched afterwards

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not necessarily an alternate version. The End movies shows >!what's happening outside of Shinji's psyche.!<

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[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Evangelion is sorta important culturally and historically in anime, but honestly I wouldn't call it good, even though it was one of the early ones I grew up on (along with Ranma 1/2 and Rurouni Kenshin).

[–] shatteredsword@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I have the opposite experience, I only watched it a couple years ago and thought the hype would totally kill it for me, but I actually ended up really enjoying it and EoE in particular stuck with me. I loved the idea that love is born of the risk we take of truly being known by other people.

I will say that the quality of the Netflix dub probably helped a lot. I know they changed some translations which kinda sucks, but overall the voice acting is so much better. No hate to Spike Spencer, he's obviously a very prolific voice actor, but I think his performance of Shinji is at least part of why people thought he was so whiny. We were originally going to watch through the rebuild movies dubbed, too, but it was so bad we decided to switch to sub.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh, but the power of American superhero comics is that you can just start reading them wherever. Sure, there is deeper lore, but you're not required to know all that. There's this bat-dude, see? He punches crooks and does awesome shit in the night. There's also a bunch of wacky villains. See? Just go read it, you'll pick up the rest of the details as you go along!

And I also love a lot of European comics because most often they have a pretty good balance between complex writing and manageable size. And publishers here tend to be more lenient toward artists making one-shot kind of comics, without any expectations that it'll become the next endless blockbuster cash-cow property.

Still, I do like how most of the manga series are like "OK, here's the beginning, here's 20 or whatever volumes, here's the end."

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Why do people understand this about the comics but not the movies?

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 years ago (5 children)

With American comics, it's not even the shattered continuity, it's that availability is a mess because some of the franchises are so ancient and collectible.

If I want to read through One Piece from the 1997 start, my library probably has/can inter-library loan all 105 volumes, or I can go to mainstream retailers and get any I'm missing without a huge fracas.

If I want to read Batman from the 1940 start, I'd better hope some of the rarer issues come up at auction in the near future AND that I can mortgage my house to afford them.

I'm amazed they never put out a DVD-ROM collection that's "Everything Marvel/DC did prior to, say, 1990, as PDF scans" just so mere mortals have a chance to enjoy the experience of completionism.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was surprised about that figure of 105 volumes for one piece, so I googled it and it was 109 (probably just what came out since you last heard about it). I was expecting that number to be like a thousand or something.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

A little over a thousand chapters, but a volume has about ten chapters.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

If it's anything like magic the gathering, whales and third party sellers are to blame

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

TV series: You have to skip the first season, it's a slow start and kinda shit. Go back to it later, except for S01E07 and 08, those are necessary to understand the story arc.
In S02, watch E03,04,05,08,11 and 02 in that order. Still drags on but there are some memorable moments. S03 is great. Except for the ending, skip that. And it all goes downhill starting in S04.
But if you stick with it, S07 is bearable again.

Best series of all time!

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly, if I'm told that I need to watch something in a weird order in order to enjoy it, I just drop it from my watchlist. There's plenty of good media to watch, I'm not gonna do that stupid shit.

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[–] superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When does game of thrones get good? Season 8?

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I personally recommend watching all of GoT in order, not because it's good, but because you won't appreciate the flawless genius of S8E3 without the other 7 seasons of context. It's a slow drag through those 7 seasons, but once it picks up in the last 5 episodes, it'll all be worth it, I swear. There's so much character development packed into those episodes that they'll seem like completely different people!

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure i forget seasons 01 - 04 until i'm in 07.

[–] aiden@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The walking deads first season is great! Not the rest though

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[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I can get into a series if people say to skip the first couple episodes/seasons because it takes a little to figure itself out (like how you can skip the first season of Parks and Rec and miss nothing of importance), but weird watch order is not something I'll bother with.

[–] Renacles@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought you were talking about Jojo for the first half and was ready to defend part 2.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

DO NOT ASK ABOUT HOW TO WATCH FATE/MONOGATARI

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Literally just watch Monogatari in release order. It's out of chronological order on purpose

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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fate is pretty easy nowadays. Just start with literally any series made after 2011. They're all self contained stories that explain the premise within the first few episodes.

We're a long way from the old days where you had to read the VN if you wanted to have any idea about what was going on in the UBW movie.

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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Make sure you watch the corrected DVD order because Fox thought more action would be better and put the 2nd episode first, the first episode 11th and totally fucked any hope for a second season...

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I ever will be...

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They took the sky from me =/

[–] polle@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago

Jujutsu kaisen has entered the chat.

(But only if you are some random website who thinks the original release timeline isn't "the correct way")

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

And that's why Comics < Manga

and I say that as someone who reads more Comics than she does Mangas (Not really fond of anime aside from specific examples)

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

Star Trek '09 and Into Darkness are both better movies if you read their supplementary comics. This is, I think, already on bad ground. Each work should be able to stand on its own to some degree. Pushing supplementary stuff like this to bring the story together is a cynical cash grab.

Season 1 of Picard then directly contradicts the comic to '09. Specifically, Data was fully revived inside B4 in the comic, while Picard showed that B4 could never handle the complexity of Data's programming (which, admittedly, is the more likely outcome). Not only that, but Alex Kurtzman was one of the writers of the comic was also on the writing team of Picard. Erasing that plot point was a deliberate choice.

Where does that leave us with those comics?

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Let me introduce you to The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Speaking of Dragon Ball, it's in a very weird "how to progress further" dillema after Toriyama's death. Various people have the rights for different purposes; and want to do different things with the franchise.

I just hope it doesn't end up like LOTR franchise where they cash out for shit ass products that doesnt respect its source material.

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