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[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Tuna fish" is a phase used primarily for canned tuna, but not for the live fish or things like tuna steak. It's because when canned tuna was created in the US in the early 1900's people who were not right next to the sea (like the majority of the US) did not know what "tuna" was. Firstly, the word is a of Spanish origin and secondly, its a salt water only fish. So in order to sell this to middle America, which was where most of the consumers were at the time but was also made up of people who have never seen the ocean, they added the word "fish" to show like other tinned fish that was commonly purchased: codfish, bluefish, and whitefish, this is also a fish and that is what you can expect when you open this can.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Colloquially tuna fish refers to the shredded salt brined tins of fish like this:

Which I do think is worth distinguishing from the actual whole pieces of tuna

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 43 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Which I do think is worth distinguishing from the actual whole pieces of tuna

So a tuna can...? Canned Tuna? Canned Fish?

"Tuna Fish" is still redundant and doesn't actually address the can

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yes, language evolves haphazardly and often doesn't make literal sense.

Alright, that's my 2 cents. I'll catch you on the flipside.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How old is the “2 cents” figure of speech? Why hasn’t it adjusted with inflation?

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

The concept could be as old as the New Testament, but apparently this specific phrasing is from the early 1900s, so it'd be about 60-70¢ now depending on which year you want to pick.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/two-cents-and-sensibility/

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

Flipside of what? Are we flipping coins, and you will see us underneath the coins?

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[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't disagree with you but I don't control American English. I imagine both head cheese and sweetbreads would also upset you

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago

I don't control American English

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t control American English

Maybe try harder. Be the change you want to see in the world. I don't necessarily believe in you but I'm sure someone does! And in the end that's all the motivation you need.

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[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait till you hear about “soda pop”

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"I want a coke. No not that one - the Mountain Dew!"

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I see you’ve also been to Georgia

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no one single reason, but the top theories:

  1. Tuna oil was a thing before "tuna fish". Yes, people could have said "tuna" but they didn't. That's language for you. People say "ATM machine" and "PIN number", too.
  2. "Tuna fish" has a slightly sing-song pattern to the stressed/unstressed syllables that probably contributed
  3. For whatever reason, "tuna fish" tends to refer to canned tuna, whereas "tuna" can include fresh (or frozen) tuna.

It's… just how language evolves.

I think, however, that "tuna fish" is slowly dying out in favour of just "tuna". As a 50 year old, anecdotally I have seen the usage decrease in my lifetime.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I bought some tuna fish and chai tea with cash i got from the atm machine

[–] rhappe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Stern@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

obtained with my pin number

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I love this comment, I'm going to save it on a PDF file.

[–] colmear@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This one is actually correct. PDF stands for Portable Document Format.

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[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)
[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Chai may mean tea, but since it is different from the typical English tea 'chai' was modified to be an adjective for tea denoting the difference. Because that's how language works.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, stop it with the redundant pleonasms!

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tuna fish is the chicken bird of the sea water.

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[–] BossDj@piefed.social 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As an American who was only ever said tuna or tuna sandwich, etc. I do think "Tuna fish" has an appealing flow (euphonious consonants without any blends) and the ish pairs well with ich in sandwich

In my mind, tuna fish is the shredded stuff in a can and tuna is bigger pieces

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You can twist knobs on a guitar, but you can't make it drink.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If I twist the knobs on my wife too hard she shits herself.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Wow she must be really into that.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, where I live, Tuna is also a cactus. Prickly pear is often called tuna. So yeah, tuna (fish) and tuna (fruit) can need disambiguation.

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[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Horse back riding

If you don’t specify, Americans will ride the wrong part of the horse

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Thanks to Catherine the Great, we all have to specify which part of the horse we're going to ride.

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[–] s@piefed.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Some of you have never eaten tuna cow and it shows

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

If we didn't say that, we wouldn't have the joke about the difference between a piano and a fish.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A Czech reporter's name is Jan Tuna. Please keep saying "tuna fish" for his* sake.

* he/him, Jan is a common male name here derived from John, the female counterpart is Jana

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[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When I hear tuna fish I think stuff in the can. When I hear Tuna I think the filet. I know that’s just me.

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[–] codapine@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

What's the difference between a tuna and a piano?

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think it's mostly for the dad joke:

You can tune a piano, but you can't tune a fish.

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[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

This entire thread is /c/badlinguistics.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Don't want to confuse it with a guitar tuna

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We have to specify so that Jessica Simpson doesn't get confused with Chicken.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tuna is just the dish, tuna on a plate.

Tuna Fish is actually Tuna Salad. You would order a tuna fish sandwich (tuna salad), but you would not go to a restaurant and say "I will have the tuna fish" because that is just tuna.

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

If I want the tuna salad, I’ll order tuna salad.

Also if I’m walking up to a sandwich shop or a restaurant that serves tuna steaks on a grill or something of the sort and say “I’ll have the tuna” the assumption is, they know I what I mean (variance for multiple dishes not included).

[–] PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Tuna was not always popular and when people didn't know what it was it helped people know what they are buying. The US also having a large portion of bilingual people with a Spanish base, this helps it not get confused with cactus fruit (apparently tuna in Spanish)

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Listen, y’all eat something called spotted dick - you can let us have tuna fish with no damn grief thank you

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