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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 55 minutes ago

Well, where I live, Tuna is also a cactus. Prickly pear is often called tuna. So yeah, tuna (fish) and tuna (fruit) can need disambiguation.

[–] krow@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

theyre just trying to make it sound right :^)

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

Given the tvp shenanigans that food manufacturers have tried to pass off and you have to ask? And BTW, dolphin is not a fish

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

A Czech reporter's name is Jan Tuna. Please keep saying "tuna fish" for his* sake.

* he/him, Jan is a common male name here derived from John, the female counterpart is Jana

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 3 minutes ago

"hey Jan, I'm watching some peertube chef and he's talking about 'bluefin tuna'! Did you used to be punk in college?"

[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

"Tuna fish" is a phase used primarily for canned tuna, but not for the live fish or things like tuna steak. It's because when canned tuna was created in the US in the early 1900's people who were not right next to the sea (like the majority of the US) did not know what "tuna" was. Firstly, the word is a of Spanish origin and secondly, its a salt water only fish. So in order to sell this to middle America, which was where most of the consumers were at the time but was also made up of people who have never seen the ocean, they added the word "fish" to show like other tinned fish that was commonly purchased: codfish, bluefish, and whitefish, this is also a fish and that is what you can expect when you open this can.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Americans do love redundancies. e.g Just barely, only just, just a bit, true facts, free gift, end result, advance warning etc.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 5 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

~~Americans~~ Languages do love redundancies.

[–] NoPanko@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 1 minute ago
[–] PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Tuna was not always popular and when people didn't know what it was it helped people know what they are buying. The US also having a large portion of bilingual people with a Spanish base, this helps it not get confused with cactus fruit (apparently tuna in Spanish)

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There's no one single reason, but the top theories:

  1. Tuna oil was a thing before "tuna fish". Yes, people could have said "tuna" but they didn't. That's language for you. People say "ATM machine" and "PIN number", too.
  2. "Tuna fish" has a slightly sing-song pattern to the stressed/unstressed syllables that probably contributed
  3. For whatever reason, "tuna fish" tends to refer to canned tuna, whereas "tuna" can include fresh (or frozen) tuna.

It's… just how language evolves.

I think, however, that "tuna fish" is slowly dying out in favour of just "tuna". As a 50 year old, anecdotally I have seen the usage decrease in my lifetime.

[–] Retail4068@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I agree with 3. That's exactly how my head cannon works and from what I can tell, others around me.

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

When I hear tuna fish I think stuff in the can. When I hear Tuna I think the filet. I know that’s just me.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 1 minute ago

No, I feel that's pretty universal.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

In the Netherlands people say koi karper. But koi means karper in Japanese, so basically people say karker karper. It's stupid.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Ever hear of the tuna piano, OOP?

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 1 points 47 minutes ago

This entire thread is /c/badlinguistics.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

I think it's mostly for the dad joke:

You can tune a piano, but you can't tune a fish.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They also love saying Koala Bear (they aren't a bear) and Dingo Dog. No, they're just koalas and dingoes. Americans just seem to like adding words where they aren't necessary. My pet hate is "off of", as in "Take your shoes off of the table!" No, just take them off the table, no need for redundancy.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago

You're right, and when you're right, you're dingo dog right, my friend.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

“Hand me that can of tuna please, I want to make a tuna fish sandwich. “

These words have come out of my mouth.

Yes they’re wrong. But something about the cadence.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago

If we didn't say that, we wouldn't have the joke about the difference between a piano and a fish.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 43 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

Colloquially tuna fish refers to the shredded salt brined tins of fish like this:

Which I do think is worth distinguishing from the actual whole pieces of tuna

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago

So tinned tuna

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 33 points 5 hours ago (10 children)

Which I do think is worth distinguishing from the actual whole pieces of tuna

So a tuna can...? Canned Tuna? Canned Fish?

"Tuna Fish" is still redundant and doesn't actually address the can

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Yes, language evolves haphazardly and often doesn't make literal sense.

Alright, that's my 2 cents. I'll catch you on the flipside.

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[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why do they need to specify it's in water? It's a fish, of course it needs to be in water.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

Some are in oil, but as BP learned, this kills the crab.

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[–] Yoddel_Hickory@piefed.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Same thing as "left-hand side". You're not children anymore, you can just say left side.

Would "left-foot side" make sense? Would it be different from the hand?

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Left-hand side is like saying your left, not mine. You could also say on your left but then again, English has lots of ways to say lots of things.

[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)
[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 23 points 4 hours ago

Chai may mean tea, but since it is different from the typical English tea 'chai' was modified to be an adjective for tea denoting the difference. Because that's how language works.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Is the 3rd movie out?

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[–] s@piefed.world 13 points 4 hours ago

Some of you have never eaten tuna cow and it shows

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

That's "chicken bird for midday lunch," Carl.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

It's about conversational cadence. If it was descriptive it would be a hyphenate.

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