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Given Lemmy's size, the definition of soulslike may be treated relatively loosely. While games like the numerous FromSoft titles, the recent Star Wars Jedi games, Lies of P, Nioh and similar games should be the focus, games that incorporate soulslike elements - like Hollow Knight and Blasphemous, for example - may also be discussed here.

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One way or another, we've all found our way to this truly magnificent genre of video games. We've all had our humble beginnings and first trial runs of games the genre has to offer. But how did we get here? Who introduced us to the genre? That's what I want to know from you!

My very first introduction to the genre was via PewDiePie (yuck) from like 2013 or so when he first played it on his channel. Didn't know the next thing about the genre or the game at all but wanted to give it a try since it looked fun and I was an impressionable teen. I remember bearing Taurus Demon and then getting stuck on Undead Burg, so I didn't really play a lot.

The other person that influenced me in giving the genre a try was probably my former breakdance teacher who's a huge fan of Bloodborne. I had a digital copy off PS+ and got some encouragement from him to give the game a try. It didn't click with until a couple years later, or rather I was too scared to progress because I knew of an upcoming jumpscare that I didn't want to experience (that doesn't exist btw), but yea, those were my two first instances of being introduced to the genre.

Were you introduced to the genre by someone in particular? How did you get to give it a try?

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

My friend in high school let me borrow his PS3 copy of DS1, telling me it was one of the best games ever.

I died to the skeletons in the graveyard around ten times (trolled lol) and promptly put it down.

Cut to much later, Elden Ring comes out and one of my friends is so excited that he gifts me the game at full price so I can experience it too.

And here comes one of the few times I'm braggadocious about gaming

For I say, "No, I have unfinished business first."

I buy Dark Souls Remastered and start a Sorceror INT/DEX build. It's tough. I recommend STR+Zwei instead for a first playthrough. Managing casts during runbacks is especially brutal. I die to the Capra Demon way too many times, git gud, and fight my way all the way to the edge of Blighttown, where I decide to stop for the night.

The next day, I boot up the game, hit Continue, and a message pops up saying, "The save data is corrupted."

But when I read it, my brain sees, "YOU DIED."

What am I going to do, go hollow?

So I start another save. Back to Blighttown. It's not easy, but it's something I just did. This time I keep playing. Get to that bonfire, kindle it, and save for the night.

The next day, "The save data is corrupted."

I'm just infuriated at this point. Really Darkin' my Soul rn.

But I restart again. Grind for the Balder Side Sword as soon as I get to the Undead Parish. Git gud. Now my level 11 character is doing as much damage as my previous level 20 character. Get to the Capra Demon. Steamroll. He should have got gud. Get to Sen's Fortress. AAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHH. Ornstein & Smough. Steamroll. Stuck on the fucking Four Kings of all bosses. Go beat Seath, get my OP magic from Logan, game over.

I beat Gwyn with 2 casts of Dark Bead, rekindle the First Flame, and immediately start a new playthrough.

I'm hooked.

[–] MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you gotten around to Elden Ring yet?

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

I started it, but I'm focusing finishing up all the games I got halfway through last year. I don't get a lot of gaming time. Dark Souls was the first, now I'm finishing up The Witcher III, and after that will be The Outer Worlds 2.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Jesus, what gives with the corrupted save files? Was that on the PS3 too?

[–] popcar2@piefed.ca 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I was there... 3000 years ago...

When I was younger, a friend passed me a copy of Demon's Souls for the PS3 when it came out in Europe. He said this game sucks and that I can keep it for now. This was before this franchise had any popularity at all, I didn't even know anything about it before playing aside from what's on the back cover.

Played it, hated it because I had no idea where to go or what to do. Gave it a try a month later and it quickly became one of my favorite games of all time. Been a day-one fan for the whole franchise since then. By comparison to everybody else, it's wild how coincidental my introduction to Souls was.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

Holy shit - you're as OG as it gets

[–] fathix@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Demons Souls on the PS3. I recall there was some internet rumblings about it being a big deal that Altus was going to publish it and we would see it in the states. On a whim I ordered a copy.

All those years ago I had some friends over and showed it to them. It was almost unanimously regarded as unnecessarily difficult and stupid. That same set of friends now love all of these games.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In hindsight, do you like the game overall? I imagine your friendship and bonding over the shared experience would likely contribute to that if you did

[–] fathix@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I do like it, and I need to revisit it. It’s been a very long time and I don’t have my ps3 anymore. I haven’t played the updated PS5 version. Thoughts on the original vs the remastered version?

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

I haven't played the original but many OG fans dislike the remake. The visuals are gorgeous but some enemies have been changed visually for no apparent reason and the overall aesthetic feels a lot more polished and less rough around the edges like the original. Depends on what you value, I think.

I liked my time with the game and can definitely say that it's still one of the best-looking games on the PS5, even after more than 5 years of the console being out. Maybe have a look at some comparison videos to see if you're find with the changes?

Here are two videos by Iron Pineapple doing some comparisons and breaking down the "controversy":

https://youtu.be/CZrDKNXjap8

https://youtu.be/n3M74Ce7fWc

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I came to the series probably around the release of DS3, or slightly before. I'd heard that they were supposed to be super hard but excellent games and wanted to see what the fuss was all about.

I got a copy of Demon's Souls from GameStop for probably like $14, but didn't start it for probably another few months to a year.

When I finally did start it, I started as a knight and ragequit pretty early into it as many of us probably did - maybe not even past Boletaria 1-1 - and told myself that I'd never play the game again.

A month or so later, however, the game wouldn't get out of my head. I just kept thinking, "What could I do to do better?" and before I knew it, I had started another character.

I remember that my wife came downstairs and said "Isn't that that game you got mad at and quit playing like a month ago?" And I was like "yeah, but I think I can do better this time".

I played as a sorcerer because that's what all of the websites said was the strongest class, and I played through the game constantly terrified. I remember that I got the Lava Bow to cheese as many regular enemies and bosses as I could, and I inched my way through the game super slowly and carefully.

I used Flame Pillar cheese to beat Allant because I was so terrified of him.

I moved on to Dark Souls, becoming more and more confident and aggressive the more I played. Ten-ish years later I've beaten every modern game From has made, SL1'd multiple games, and even gone back to play King's Field. As many others have said, Fromsoft has basically ruined all other video games for me save a few similar experiences like older Monster Hunter.

Unfortunately I think the FromSoft games are also slowly losing what drew me to them in the first place, but they're still amazing games, and I always look forward to seeing what From comes out with next.

Overall ranking for anyone interested: DeS > Sekiro > DS1 > BB > ER > DS2 > DS3

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Demon's Souls imported Japanese copy OG release

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Elden Ring was honestly my first. I avoided Soulslike games because I don't like to play games to feel frustrated. I heard about the crazy bosses, frustrating runs back from bonfires, and obtuse storytelling, so I was not inclined to give them much thought.

I was pushed to play it by a few friends looking for a third for a summons trio, with assurances that I'd have two Souls veterans to help me out with bosses if I got stuck. It took me a bit to get used to, but the nature of the open world and the rather more forgiving placements of graces/stakes to minimize the pain of runbacks made it a bearable game for me. Though the story is still obtuse, I really enjoyed the worldbuilding and how (excluding Caelid) surprisingly not dark the world was.

And you know what? I ended up being the friend to help one of them beat Malenia, who I defeated on my own first.

I've been enjoying Nightreign with those same friends lately. More good stuff, boiled down. It's made me get more comfortable with different playstyles just due to the nature of pre-built characters and random drops.

I'm also now playing through the remake of Demon's Souls on a whim, and while I feel better equipped to get through it just from what I know about Elden Ring, I can safely say that I would have completely bounced off of it had it been my first game. I'm definitely glad Elden Ring was my first, and Elden Ring 2 cannot come fast enough.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

ER is a first for many, I feel like. Come to think of it, I hadn't given Bloodborne and Sekiro another thorough look until I saw Elden Ring being heralded as the second coming of Christ and thought that I wanted to play the game too, but not unless I've finished BB and Sekiro first. Despite some criticisms of mine towards the game, it's undeniable how much of a positive influence the game had on the perception of and the love for the genre. That's a win in my books

[–] Gaxsun@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

Friend dragged me kicking and screaming through Dark Souls 3. Must've clicked along the way somewhere.

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

I was bored and had heard Elden Ring had great world building and lore. This sounded like the story adventure games I usually played… yeah…

After dying in the tutorial section multiple times because this was the first real combat heavy game I’d ever played. I actually committed harder to playing it.

I had just recently been diagnosed and medicated for ADHD and I decided that forcing myself to beat this Hellish game would be a great exercise in following through with goals and not giving up on tasks that are long/difficult.

It took me longer than I’m willing to admit (in my defense I was playing with a mouse and keyboard for the first week or two), but eventually I beat the game.

Oh I should also mention I did quit about halfway through… to go beat DS1 and DS2. I was dying to the same bosses over and over and needed novelty. So I decided DS1 would give me new things to explore but still help me get better at these games. It worked well enough that I decided to restart ER from the beginning. It is very satisfying to obliterate enemies that used to feel difficult and know that it’s because of skill not upgrades this time lol.

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

After Bloodborne was released , everything I saw and read about it online made me feel very curious and drawn to it, specially some of the concept art. It stayed with me for a long time. I wouldn't get to play it until like 3 almost 4 years later, when I had the chance to borrow a friends console for an extended time.

I was a very on and off "gamer", and had never been hooked by a game that way before... I didn't know much about the genre and it was monstrously hard for me in the beginning, but It was also different from everything I had played until then, to me, this was what was missing from gaming before. I got through it and I loved every second of it.

When I got a console of my own I really got into the game in depth, but I didn't play any other soulslike until Elden Ring came out, and after SotE, I started playing other titles in the genre, so recently-ish... And I'm slowly but surely making my way through the catalogue.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 4 months ago

I saw all the talk and hype about Dark Souls 1, watched some gameplay and immediately knew the difficulty was going to primarily be memorization/pattern recognition but didn't think it would have anything memorable after a run through. Then I was hit with the vague story, the lack of direction and the kinda deep but entirely obtuse mechanics. At some point it clicked that I had played ganes like this once before, but long ago when games were still 2D and I started treating it like Castlevania and loved it.

[–] Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I was planning on buying a PS4 to play FFXV but it was still a few months out. I saw a used PS4 on sale for a good price and bought it and thought "I already have a good PC, so what exclusives can I buy for this until FFXV comes out?" I settled on Bloodborne and it is still to this day the greatest game I have ever played. It took a while to transition from the fast paced combat of Bloodborne to the slower pace of DS3 but it eventually clicked. Then I played DS, tried DS2 but it never clicked, Demon's Souls, and then Elden Ring. I've tried DS2 a few times since but it never clicks.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wholeheartedly agree on BB just being an amazing video game, period. The world building is impeccable, the vibes are off the charts, the gameplay is unparalleled in its own way. Is BB your favourite soulslike too or do you prefer a different one?

[–] Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 4 points 4 months ago

Best game overall and best soulslike

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

My friend in college had a copy of Demon's Souls around the time of its release, and I was really impressed with it. It was one of the first games I picked up when I got a PS3 shortly thereafter.

[–] MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I first heard about Dark Souls 1 over a decade ago, years before DS3 was released, and I thought it looked neat. My nearest gameplay comparison was Monster Hunter. Unfortunately, I didn't have a PC or Console at that time that could play it, so I forgot about it. Years later, I got third or forth hand PS4 from a family member either for free or for years of IT support. I heard that Bloodborne, a game by the same developer as Dark Souls, was a must-play for the PS4 and worth even buying the console for. The GOTY edition of Bloodborne was for sale for 20€ at that time and I thought, "Why not? Might as well buy it." And then... I played hundreds of hours of Monster Hunter World and forgot I about my purchase. Over a year later, I had lots of time on my hand and remembered that game. I after booting it up, being slightly confused and drinking in the atmosphere I got beat up by the townsfolk. I took me half a dozen hours to just get past the pyre. But I presevered! Central Yharnam: best tutorial level of all time!
Bloodborne has IMO still the best atmosphere of any game I ever played. Gameplay wise? I still love Bloodborne and have to replay it for Xth time, but I'm currently hopelessly addicted to Elden Ring. Elden Ring has in my oppinion by far the best gameplay of any game in the Souls series.

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

currently hopelessly addicted to Elden Ring

Do you consider getting back into nightreign? I feel like with your extensive knowledge of elden ring mechanics you could absolutely demolish it solo. But I understand the repetitive, rouglite element of it is not for everyone.

[–] MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I will probably get back into Nightreign eventually. The moment-to-moment gameplay was fantastic, but the gameplay loop didn't really appeal to me. Both random and same-y, and you don't really have a control over your build. Eventually it felt like I just had a 30 Minute runback to Tricephalos and the victory against it wasn't very satisfying (I lucked into Siluria's Tree). When I try it next time, I'm probably gonna watch/read a guide.

After I bullied my way all the way to NG+7 with my first save file in Elden Ring, I'll probably give Lies of P a try, which I got here in a giveaway here (thanks). A Mage playthrough of DS2 or a third RL1 playthrough of Elden Ring also sound appealing, but I'm gonna play a totally different new game now (even though LoP is supposed to be the Souls game not by Fromsoft).

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

victory against it wasn't very satisfying (I lucked into Siluria's Tree).

Oh yeah I get it. You do get some control over your build once get some good relics, and (at least in solo expeditions )the game comes down to exploiting ER knowledge to get that build online and, ideally stupildly strong against the boss weakness, or to improvise something that works.

Expeditions do get pretty repetitive tho. It suffers from lack of SotE content, imo. at least the base game, haven't tried the dlc.

Hope that when you get back to it, it clicks!

[–] Tarnishedbunbun@thelemmy.club 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My boyfriend. He's been playing Elden Ring since its release and back then, I used to find the photos from its steam page intimidating and lowkey creepy but also, beautiful. It stopped from there but eventually, come 2024, I started becoming more curious about the game. I'm the type of person who, if I want something, I'll do everything I can to get it so I did everything I can to get enough money to buy it 😂.

And from then on, I started exploring the genre itself and got myself a few games on sale over the time

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's so awesome when you can bond with your partner over a game :) my fiancée also had never played a soulslike prior to Elden Ring and enjoyed the game so much that she's always the one asking to play it nowadays while I have no desire to continue playing :D she even beat Malenia whom I couldn't beat

What's your favourite soulslike thus far?

[–] Tarnishedbunbun@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! I eventually became the one more obsessed with elden ring than him, funnily enough 😂. Yeah, I'm the same as your fiance. I'm farming Malenia in convergence and I've faced PCR more than a 7 times now both in vanilla and convergence while he still hasn't. Mainly cause he's not playing the game these days tho.

But nevertheless we often talk about souls-likes.

As for my favourite one, it's def elden ring. DS3 is a stellar game but not so much with replayability for me. I think DS1 & DS2 would have more replay value for me though. I've also played Asterigos but I found it to be too boring and slow. Fallen order is amazing tho! There's also Nostalgaia, Blasphemous 1 & 2, Moonscars, and TLF. All gems!

Funnily enough, I've actually started playing soulslikes without knowing earlier, around the same time my boyfriend got ER (which was right upon its release) with Pascal's Wager (it was free on play store). I just didn't know it's a soulslike or what even is a soulslike that time.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's so awesome - glad you're enjoying your time with the game as much as you do :)

I haven't finished my first playthrough of DS3, but I've also heard that it doesn't boast as much replayabality since it's a tad more linear than the previous entries. However, Sekiro is also very linear and I've played through the game like 7 times at this point? Same goes for Lies of P which also doesn't have as many branching paths.

I actually think many fans got into the genre without knowing it. I didn't know a thing about soulslikes when I got into Bloodborne. The talking about genres only really comes up once you've established your liking the game and upon further digging finding out more about the games.

Never heard of Pascal's Wager! How would you describe the game compared to the contemporaries?

[–] Tarnishedbunbun@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 months ago

Yes it must be the linearity that makes me not wanna replay it. It might also be the pretty bland colour scheme of the game overall which rightfully earned it getting called a "greyslop" or something. Sekiro is also not open world but from what I've seen, lowkey feels like one from what I've seen and has a nice interesting colour scheme. Though that might be just me haha.

Bloodborne is nice. Surprisingly, it doesn't look as bland as DS3 despite not offering much colour wise. But the gameplay and all that, it feels very beautiful. As for Pascal's Wager, I think I'll say it's lowkey like BB aesthetically. Iirc, you also play as some sort of a hunter there and stuff feels gothic and maybe Lovecraftian (Idk, not that familiar with Lovecraftian stuff but yeah). Imo you should try the game tho. Available on PC too!

[–] Hundun@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago

My school friend shared his PSN when I bought a PS4, so I could check out Bloodborne. I could not stop playing, this game uprooted my sleep schedule. I especially enjoyed the lore, soundtrack, architecture, atmosphere and overall vibe of living through a Lovecraft story.

Since then I have played Demon Souls, DS1&3, Elden Ring with DLC. Still nothing hits the same.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Picked up Dark Souls 2 at a videogame cafe on a whim back in my youth and got absolutely owned by the first Heide Knight you encounter. Tried it a few more times at the cafe, I don't think I ever made it to Huntsmans Copse, before finally picking up Dark Souls 1. Bounced off it first at the Undead Berg bull, and then at Sens.

Several years later, I picked up Sekiro because it was the FotM hotness, and I fell in love with it because I wasn't a stupid teen anymore and no longer bounced off difficult games. Went back through the franchise from there, completing DS1, DS2, and DS3 within like a month.

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

completing DS1, DS2, and DS3 within like a month.

Damn, son, you locked in!

[–] D06M4@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

I'm the unchosen undead.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I tried ds2 on a lark when I was very isolated and in a new place. Didn't have internet and a friend suggested it as an offline activity when I wasn't working. The message of the story and gameplay resonated with me finding meaning in my own fears and uncertaintude. Didn't get obsessed though until Jacob Geller made a video about how DS3 was about deciding to die. After trying it From has had their hooks in me ever since.

Which is funny because before Dark Souls I was obsessed with Armored Core and didn't even realize who the developer was

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow, DS2 as a first must be crazy. How did you like the other entries compared to your first exposure to the genre via the "middle child" of the franchise?

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Tried DS1 and didn't get far, it felt like I lost complexity and gained tank controls, backstabbing ambushes that I couldn't defend against. I plan to try it again some day but I'll have to be in the right mindset.

Bloodborne smashed my balls in a vice at first until I learned to stop trying to grind and rely more on parrying. Then it became the game my girlfriend at the time and I bonded over. She never played souls games but somehow learned to parry better than me just from watching. My character started as an ill conceived quirk chungus and we made up lore about all the creatures and our characters as we went. Ended as a fully vindicated and unrepentant quirk chungus. Good times all around.

Ds3 felt good when I played it but in retrospect I think it had less going on thematically. Blew my mind at the time though, think it was the first really deconstructive fantasy literature I had sunk my teeth into and I crave that. But it got me to stop using shields and that was a mistake

ER gave me back everything about DS2 I was missing. I like feeling like a dirtbag cheating my way too undeserved power and the gameplay gave me that. The story gave me that and that variety of regrets/elation that I associate with it. Didn't really follow through as much in the DLC though.

I'm not built for Nightreign. It's got so much cool stuff I should love but I can't handle time limits or not being able to explore and vibe in the world. Hope to see the mechanics adopted in new traditional titles though

[–] Juice@midwest.social 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My son asked for Bloodborne, I knew nothing about it, so bought it for him. He couldn't figure it out, and neither could I, so it just sat.

For Christmas maybe the next year, my bro got me ds3. I couldn't figure it out either, but I realized that the games were made by From. I'd heard of Dark Souls but didn't know it was a From title, I was like confused why they weren't making AC games in a long time.

Went back to Bloodborne, made some progress but still couldn't figure it out, went back to DS3, completed it a few times, went back to Bloodborne and got obsessed with it.

I've beaten ER, Sekiro, mastered Nightreign, couldn't really get into the older ones but everything since Bloodborne ive logged hundreds of hours. I actually have 1600 hours in Bloodborne alone.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, 1600h in any single game is mental. Ever feel burned out by it? How many runs is that?

[–] Juice@midwest.social 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I dont think I'm burned out of the game, but kinda burned out by the main communities I interacted with. I played a lot of coop with 2 other people, too. We would just run through each others games or run chalice dungeons on mics, like Bloodborne buddies, every single night, for months?

A lot of hours helping people defeat chalice dungeons for the platinum. Cursed Amygdala is ridiculously hard, and a lot of people are just rushing through the story dungeons for the plat.

But there are 26 weapons in the game and ive done at least one full play through with each, except the Amygdala arm. So one more to go. Each weapon is so unique, it is like a completely different game.

Since theres no respec in Bloodborne, I'd make different characters with different builds. I'd keep ones that I liked the design and drip, and then not really level them beyond 120-140 since that was the PvP meta cap. I have all ten slots filled with characters, each one has at least two full play throughs, I think 2 of them that are over ng7. Ive deleted several, I'd estimate at least 12, many of those with full play through.

I really like playing souls games from the beginning, it feels like the full experience. So I like starting over with a new character. I fire it up around Halloween every year. Idk if

[–] MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

except the Amygdala arm

That was the weapon with which I beat my first playthrough! I love that weapon, especially its design.

Any reason you haven't done a playthrough with it yet? Just haven't gotten around to it yet? Or any specific dislikes of that weapon?

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

Honestly just haven't gotten to it. Every weapon is viable, some of them aren't great and they tend to be the big clunky weapons like the kirkhammer. Although a pure bolt kirkhammer is pretty funny the way it massacres certain bosses.

I just never had a str+arc character until like last year when I got the game out around Halloween. I did a run through with the Tonitrus, which is way stronger than I ever thought even if the moveset is kinda mid. Then I did the boomhammer, similar move set and kinda underwhelming wrt it's damage and again kind of a one trick pony in its moveset. Amy arm would def be next but i haven't picked the game up since.

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Alot of you guys need to give the Armored Core series a try. I've been a fan since Silent Line back on the ps2. Armored Core 3 was cool, but it took the sequel to really hook me.

Armored Core as a series is like a deep dive back into the development of Fromsoft as a storytelling company in addition to being a game developer. The scale of the conflicts, the ability to truly affect the story with your choices, and showing you the impact those choices have in more than just dialog. Its all a road map leading up to masterpieces like Armored Core 6, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring.

I've honestly never beaten Elden ring, despite playing and enjoying for a while. I just dont have the drive to sit down and invest hundreds of hours to build the muscle memory I need to complete a game like that. But I already have those muscles for Armored Core, and a 20 hour story run is much more palatable to fit into a week than a 100 hour souls slog.

[–] fathix@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where in the Armored Core series should someone dive in? From the beginning? I’ve never played any of them.

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

The nice thing about Armored Core is that it doesn't matter. Every game is very well self contained. Im a bit partial to older entries in the series simply due to nostalgia, but AC 6 is a fantastic game in its own right. If you find yourself itching for more after playing through that a few times, the rest of the series awaits. Things get kinda hard to play and find back around AC3. Please also note that the numbering convention doesn't matter much and there are a bunch of smaller psp/one-off sequels.

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

I had a bunch of friends talking about DS1 and I tried it, wasnt positive I liked how hard it was. Then I got to undeadburg and spent HOURS trying to beat Havel and the torus demon both. I ended up leveling to 60 in undeadburg. And after that, I did more of the same by getting stuck at hellkite drake. I eventually got the helkite drake sword and tried using that until I got to S&O. I was not smart, but i was dedicated.

[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

I'd played a few hours of dark souls 2 and 3 but never really clicked with the gameplay until Elden Ring. In fact, I spent several hours trying to kill tutorial Gundyr in 3. Came back recently and beat him about 30 seconds, lol.

Even in Elden Ring, I had to restart my playthrough to feel like I'd actually learned anything about the gameplay. I do that a lot with games. I'll get several hours in and drop it for months. Then I come back and start fresh, never getting to the end. But it actually helped with this series. It's amazing how big of a gulf there is between past me and now.