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[–] sxan@midwest.social 102 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Which is worse: a line of asbestos, or a line of grounf-up fiberglass? I can't imagine either is going to do your lungs any good.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 94 points 2 years ago (2 children)

From what I understand, asbestos is far worse. Fiberglass causes irritation but that's about it. Asbestos, while it takes its time, will eventually cause mesothelioma and you really don't want that.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Really? That's surprising. I would think inhaling a bunch of ground glass would severely damage your lungs, permanently.

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

Fiberglass is very smooth compared to asbestos, at a microscopic level. That's what makes asbestos so bad - it gets in there and works its way further in, like a porcupine quill. Fiberglass is by no means healthy, but it's a fair bit less harmful.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Asbestos can get to such a fine point that it can literally physically cleave DNA. Edit: I think I am wrong about that, please see my comment below

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] subignition@fedia.io 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I may have been misinformed, actually. Looking into it further, it seems like mechanical interference in cell division was ruled out. However, it seems there is some evidence that among other things, fibers beyond a certain length cause macrophages to essentially get destroyed trying to engulf them, which contributes to chronic inflammation, which is a big risk factor in many cancers

It's a bit above my head but here is a study I found https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7082251/

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the study

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Fiberglass probably won't feel nice and might leave some permanent scars, but iirc, asbestos will do that and then some, but with particles so small that your body can never fully get rid of it

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 14 points 2 years ago

Yeah, and asbestos does that too and then gives you mega cancer in about 20 years.

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I thought fiberglass causes silicosis?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Both travels down to the aveola level IIRC, but asbestos has a small toxic atom that gets left there, which us why asbestos is so bad for your health.

[–] sparkee@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This could be the intro to a Chubbyemu vid.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

"He made 'a' recovery"

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I have a friend who did a line of jelly crystals to avoid taking 2 damage in a game of MTG, but this is a new level of stupid.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bro I'll do 2 damage to my damn self to have mana. The only number that matters is 0.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Buddy must have had less than 3 life.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, the dumbass had 20, and he still lost the game.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Well, I stand corrected.

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

They're fucked. Not because of the asbestos, but because of their clear disregard for personal health and safety. God speed you crazy bastard.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh that is not good. Not good at all.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Citation needed.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

He made it through the FA part of this story. The FO part will start anytime.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 12 points 2 years ago

New TikTok challenge: do a line of an unknown vaguely powder-like substance. The game ends with the death of somebody deemed cool/attractive enough to care about.

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spaz's House Destruction Party 2: Electric Boogaloo

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You just teleported me back to high school