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[–] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

A spot in one of those for a family in Berlin costs 650.000€ because of how great the non-communist economy is doing at creating affordable housing. That is 14 times for median salary before taxes, or 21 times after taxes. https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/165160850

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I've seen this posted before. Important points to consider: Imperial Russia had a housing shortage in the cities due to industrialization occurring and the existing housing was often of poor quality. According to one source: "In major cities, a significant portion of housing consisted of barracks, basements, semi-basements, dormitory-style rooms, dugouts, and semi-dugouts."

Then WW1 hit followed by the civil war and housing construction essentially stopped with some housing destroyed in the war. Then in the interwar period, priority was given to industrial construction in the USSR, resulting in low housing construction volumes, with a significant share consisting of temporary housing. Rapid industrialization and increasing population shifts to cities increasing demand. Then WW2 hit and huge amounts of existing housing were destroyed in the fighting.

So the USSR was in tight spot and did the best they could with limited time and resources which for most Russians ended up being a huge improvement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_construction_in_the_Soviet_Union

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 points 2 hours ago

Ahh yes, the famous left wing authoritarian centric planning government Soviet Russia

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Who could've guessed, low-cost housing doesn't look fancy!

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 hours ago

Has anyone seen the cat?

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 104 points 18 hours ago (4 children)
[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

More right wing architecture

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Pls bro, just one more 🙏

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 26 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I fucking hate stroads.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I hate it. Feels so restricting. Cant go anywhere without driving, and even driving a block is a huge pain in the ass because of all the traffic and traffic control

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That is a lot of gas stations and signs for them

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Free market competition 🇺🇸🦅🙏

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 23 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I don't see this as left or right wing

This is architecture that could be done better.

Yes, we need to stop homelessness, but you also want to avoid creating spaces where nobody wants to live because it's ugly and depressing and guaranteed, the poor end up having to live there, and with that comes crime and what not and you end up with ghetto style areas where even police is uneasy

Take a little bit more space, put a little bit more thought into the designs, add spaces for children to play, add parks, make it look nice. Wr don't need luxury villas either, but there has to be something better than this

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

In my country this type of building came about in a society where many still lived in wood sheds without electricity or running water. Where people shared outhouses with their neighbors in the yard of actual residential buildings. Where every residence on average was overpopulated.

The architecture of the time homed huge amounts of people with running water, indoor toilets and electricity. Indoor heat without needing a fire.

The areas where they were erected weren't much to look at before. The buildings today may be unappreciated but I find them lovely in a way. They're a shadow of a society that cared for it's citizens.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It was built cheap and efficiently, not to please the eye. It could certainly be better, and we know that our environ plays a bigger role in our outlooks than we did before. If they built it today, it would have a few more trees and green spaces but would maintain it's very essence, which is a large domicile to house people for cheap.

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[–] JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

How the hell is this "left wing architecture"?? Apartment buildings have looked like this all around the world for at least 50 years.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 3 points 12 hours ago

It's "left wing" because the buildings are identical, because they were built through central planning.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Any housing that isn't exclusively for billionaires is 'left wing'.

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[–] Daerun@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This litterally looks like any neighbourhood build in Spain in the 60s.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hey if you need a lot of housing real quick utilitarian designs like this tend to come about, doesn't really matter who is doing it. Hell the Romans had some prefab designs that had a passing resemblance to this.

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Except that if the Romans actually built high-rises, the damned things would probably still be standing.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

High-rises? No. Multi story buildings some going up to six or seven floors? Yes. Plenty of them survived up until around the high medieval period but we're starting to come down by the Renaissance, though there are some examples in Revenna Italy. It's been about 1500 years since the fall of the Western Roman Empire and about 500 years since the Eastern Roman Empire, regardless of how well built that's a long time for any tall structures, a good example is the Lighthouse of Alexandria which while a bit older was rendered ruined around the same period and subsequently scavenged from to construct something newer, much like it's Roman counterparts.

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

And meanwhile, name structures of similar scale built with modern engineering would probably be gone long in a fraction of the time.

[–] chaosppe@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

lists one way of doing a thing "This is the only way of doing that thing!!"

[–] MasterNerd@lemmy.zip 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

One interesting thing I'm noting is that picture appears to have been taken on a rather dreary winter day. I can see a lot of trees between the buildings, and I'd be interested in seeing what this place looks like in other seasons and better weather

[–] TurboToad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes, additionally utilitarian architecture like this can easily painted in lively colors to make it look nicer. Imo this also would make a big difference with minimal costs

[–] SigmarStern@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

High rise apartments in Seoul Meanwhile in famously communist South Korea...

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 18 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Ah, the beauties of capitalism.

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[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

Semi relatedly, there's some new blocks in my city that are both ugly and expensive to live in. It's this soulless, almost corporate feeling type of architecture. Doesn't fit into how the city looks at all. They had the opportunity to decide whether to build affordable housing or something pretty that aesthetically fits into the city and picked neither. No doubt the shareholders shed a tear of joy.

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 121 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Social housing typically doesn't look as good as high-end apartments, but it doesn't have to look terrible. Here's some pretty neat looking social housing in south Paris.

It's kind of the China Town of Paris.

It's right next to an accessible tram station, has green spaces and social areas spread around, a couple of malls with great independent restaurants right next door. There are cycle lanes all around the place.

If you're curious, here it is on Google Maps

I'd live here. I only wish there were more neighbourhoods like this.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

No comrade, nice looking things are bourgeoisie decadence.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

Copying and pasting an old comment i made:

Honestly, commieblocks arent that bad. Most of the pictures of them are cherry picked to be the unmaintained, dirty ones, and are exclusively taken in gloomy weather. The houses on the inside are usually good quality as well (though likely not well maintained anymore).

Hell, if you just painted them colourfully, they'd look nice.

And that is just the façade, some places renew the façade every few decades to keep the place fresh and desirable.

the benefits of high density urban design are also amazing and I assume I do not need to list them here. this is lemmy and I just need to wait for the appropriate autist to list them all.

And how is it controversial to build housing for everyone, instead of some pretty houses for those who can afford it.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 77 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Also part of why it looks depressing is because it's old and poorly maintained.

Just a touch of renovation and the houses start looking way better:

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 44 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Ugh. Disgusting.

Give me a single structure on a plot of land, 10ft from my neighbours walls, and a lawn to maintain, any day I live for the additional costs on the place I never spend the best hours of my day in. Worth every gallon of commute fuel. My brain is so aerodynamic.

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The only thing more depressing than left wing architecture is right wing architecture

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 18 hours ago

Looks like concept art from Anno 2070... And I don't mean that in a good way.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They're called commieblocks if they're affordable to the average person. If not, they're "highrise apartments"

I live in a city with neighbourhoods built during Socialism, they're spacious, full of greenery and with important services within walkable/bikeable distance. Meanwhile we have new "urban villas", which are drab concrete boxes with apartments that have bizzare floorplans and seem to be built for money laundering purposes.

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[–] SuluBeddu@feddit.it 8 points 17 hours ago

On the picture: hundreds of flats with individual windows and balcony

Oh no, giving hundreds of families a balcony, how terribile! What's next: non-shared bathrooms and kitchens?

[–] karashta@piefed.social 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I hate our society's fixation with ugly utilitarianism. We could be making beautiful things for all of us

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[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

take notice of your capitalist car park next time you go to big box centre. more depressing than housing

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Those blocks might be not perfect, but they were part of a program to build housing for all those people living in quite bad conditions after the war and after everything that went through in eastern europe in the 20th century. They needed millions of homes and quick. And they might be ugly to some people, but they are better than slums and you shouldn't take their condition today after several decades for what they were when they were new.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

I actually wish they’d build more of those than the overpriced “luxury condos” people build now that no one can afford.

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