Dodged a bullet!
Keep asking those questions. Any place worth working for will be happy to discuss this openly.
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Dodged a bullet!
Keep asking those questions. Any place worth working for will be happy to discuss this openly.
Would be nice to name drop these kinds of assholes.
I would love for them to not find a single worker to fill this position and people gradually leaving until it's just a husk with the C-suite having to do everything or the company just disappearing
I honestly just assume its fake when they dont name drop. I have no doubt it happens, but its just rage bait without any context.
Based on a true story
Don't doubt that each of those things were used by various companies to not hire people, but listing them all at once in a rejection letter that no companies send anymore is a bit too on the nose.
It may be, but key words are "it happens".
This is anecdotal, but when I got my very first job interview at a somewhat big local company back when I was 19, the interviewer was apparently very eager to hire me, until I mentioned the salary topic, then her face changed from excited to like "rude, we're not hiring this guy" almost immediately.
I would name drop them if I remembered the company name.
They ghosted me tho
the C-suite having to do everything
In seconds, how long do you think the company would last?
I’d say they answered the question about the culture.
You dodged a bullet there.
Like a 950 caliber bullet. Depending on the work, a company like that is going to be just as effective as making someone go splat.
I had a company back in 2012 refuse to present even a range of compensation before they flew me 1200 miles to an interview except to say that it "wasn't bad."
I didn't take the interview.
I would have taken the free flight and saw the sights and then just left without appearing at the interview.
I think they were going to reimburse me after.
Well thats even stupider, I'll bet they would have never gave you a dime even if they did hire you.
That's fucking bullshit. 20 years ago, those were just basic things to ask when they say "Do you have any questions for us?" And applicants were actively encouraged to do so by jobs coaches.
If they don't want people to negotiate their contracts, they should say "Requirements: willing to be exploited and blindly obedient; push-overs preferred."
It's common practice now. I've been interviewing for over 4 months, and ask these kinds of questions every time (except for the salary). Over a dozen interviews, and not once has there been even a hint of relucrance to respond.
Op dodged a crap company
You shouldn't have to ask about the salary because that should have been in the job advertisement. Why would anyone even apply for a job if they don't know what it pays?
I like to ask how much toilet paper can I steal before I get in trouble.
Under appreciated litmus test right here!
As a manager I’ll give you their thought process and from a mangers perspective it makes sense (albeit still wrong) and you DEFINITELY wouldn’t say it to the applicant.
Managers want robots that do their job and don’t call them out on their bullshit or question the decisions they make or their salary. That way they don’t have to give raises or address issues. When you ask questions on the interview that lead them to believe you are educated and stand up for yourself they don’t want to introduce you into their work bubble of other robots or it would start a rebellion. Hope this helps.
Sounds like you had some shitty managers. That’s about as dumb as saying that all people interviewing are lazy people with no work ethics and just want to do nothing and get paid.
Based on this screenshot the candidate dodged a bullet because this particular manager/company sounds terrible.
It really depends on the type of job. If you are doing a cog-in-the-machine job like anything in retail, gastronomy or customer support, it's exactly like Pacattack57 described.
As a manager, I disagree.
Anyone that isn't asking basic shit about the job is either an idiot or dishonest and I don't want them on my team. Provide honest answers to these questions immediately, ESPECIALLY work culture and responsibilities. Salary may not be appropriate at this specific stage in the interview, but if it's the third round or later, it needs to be discussed.
EDIT: depends what type of team you manage I think...
I hate that OP blacked out the company. Name and shame these fucks.
I feel like people block out names way to often now. I they felt comfortable enough to send this email, I'm sure they'd feel comfortable with it being shared with others, right?
It'd just discourage companies from sending rejection letters or giving reasons.
Better to flame the situation than the company in this case.
Ah yes the: "Accountability is bad because then those held accountable will try and hide their actions" argument.
It's not an ideal position to hold as it's one that's subservient to abuse and malicious intent
Is it common these days for employers to give this type of feedback to rejected candidates? I used to be happy when I got any reaction at all and didn't just have to eventually figure they weren't going to get back to me.
No.
No.
It's common to just ghost the candidates.
This is why it's fake.
Employers never give feedback ever period.
Something something fake liability concerns
That's code for "we know that nobody would work here if they knew the answers, so we don't want to tell anyone them"
They don't like talking about it because every interested candidate becomes uninterested immediately after hearing the pay sucks, the hours suck, and the culture is awful.

This has to be fake... right?
Yes. You think you get feedback when you don’t get the job? Nah, companies are the OG ghosters.
Be greatfull you didnt get that position because if they say asking about responsibilities (aka the role) is a no-no, then they're scamming.
Task failed successfully. Any company willing to get defensive in writing clearly has some horrific practices.
"So umm hows the weather?"
Im sorry $user But we dont discuss things on this ethereal plane during the interviewing process.
Yeah nice redflag for not working there
"for future reference...." Like OP is gong to re-apply to this company.
That's literally what at least 30 years of job interview advice has been encouraging people to ask during an interview
While I believe companies do this, I don't believe this image is real. There is literally no reason to blur out the company. You didn't get the job. What do you gotta lose by showing the name of the company.
Just takes all credibility out of this image
NOOOO the interview is meant for us to find a guy to underpay, not for you to find a stable good paying job!!!
I think those are questions you should definitely ask. I'd save them for the end of the interview but definitely ask.