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The GOP normalized this. They brute forced Trump in as a candidate the second time around. It didn't matter if he joined the primaries or not, he was going to ballet no matter what.

Remember that our alliance was born in the blood of our grandfathers. My grandfather died in old age from old shrapnel causing a bleed. He was shot diagonally by a machine gun with bullets hitting leg to shoulder and then grenaded. Other scout with him shot dead through the neck beside him.

Be warned! What is happening here is a pathogen. Those within will need each other.

It’s pretty awful… I’m taking the steps to get my LTC now. I see the wisdom in the 2nd amendment now but I’m not foolish enough to think I stand a chance against a silent drone that flies above the clouds and can shoot laser guided missiles and is piloted by a guy 50 miles off shore… it’d be used to get the hell out of dodge.

Actually, they don't. If a civil war started, it would likely end with the death of some billionaires and rightfully so. Ideally they want to deport and detain more people before starting a Civil War. If they do it too soon, they won't have the numbers to win. So please let them be stupid enough to do it too soon.

I'm ALL for 8 dead billionaires instead of decades of more governments becoming enshitified by the tech these clowns control.

Open civil war is starting right now.

Has this term "civil war" just lost all meaning along with "literally" and "gaslight?"

A civil war is definitionally when two internal armies of a country fight on a large scale.

We do not have that, we do not have an army. Organized protests turning violent are "civil disruption" or "destabilization" at worst. We're about a century off from this turning into a "civil war" because there would need to be opposing armies.

I get that it feels viscerally satisfying to imagine actually firing weapons at these assholes but we're not in that world yet. They have the system, they have the national guard and other armed forces. They have most of the police and most of the justice system.

If we want to change this, we do it with community and organization. In the words of one powerful protestor in Minneapolis: "The democrats will not save you. The republicans will not save you. Nobody is coming. Only your neighbor will save you." We have to get back to community and organization or this will go from isolated protests and unrest to a quiet, locked-down nation of people too afraid to move LONG before it turns into an actual war. Despite what grifters on both sides want you to believe.

I despise these headlines and stories, it's just attention-baiting, and you're all falling for it because you want to see change happen but you don't know how to get there. There are better ways to get there, but they require involvement in some boring shit. I'm sorry and I wish there was a better answer for this.

edit: here, this group has had a hand in electing the most recent wave of progressive and socialist state leaders and mayors around the country. They need volunteers, they need people to help them. It's not as fun as imagining throwing molotovs at feds, but it does a lot more good:

https://www.progressivevictory.win/

Reminder that Mussolini was not overthrown by a ragtag band of plucky rebels, he was handed over to the opposition by his own government and arrested by the king of Italy himself as political pressure grew and the establishment feared the approach of allied nations. Pressure and politics still moves mountains, and even if we had that band of armed rebels, we would need politics to figure out how to live next to the millions of people who didn't vote for a coup or civil war. Lets fix this by starting in our communities and do a Mamdani-Effect across the whole country. It will kick the legs out from this current kleptocracy.

Did the first one ever truly end? You've had people waving the Confederate flag since the North "won".

This is the price of doing half a job.

I’d argue it started in 2010 with the occupy Wall Street movement. It made oligarchs nervous and start us down the road we are on currently.

Well worth a read. Phases of the American Civil War:

A "2nd" Civil War would just be going from a cold to hot phase of the same conflict, ongoing since the 18th Century

https://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2014/09/phases-of-american-civil-war.html?m=1

all i know is, as someone born in the early 90s, I know I never got to experience the 'before'. I think it happened at 9/11

I disagree. It started with electing Obama. That is what truly broke all the minds of all the racists.

the regime offers us two choices:

• organize and fight in the civil war they're so thirsty for
• get genocided

And incredibly predictable. I lost friends ten years ago when I said this is exactly what would happen.

Especially now as courts were forbidden from nationwide injunctions. That decision was a huge betrayal and the fact that media has not told us that just further proves they are failing in their jobs across the board.

Please be after the steam frame is out.