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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve had plenty of winters like the top picture. Your mistake is living near humans.

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The problem with the top picture is the cars, not the humans.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

No, it’s definitely humans. If humans lived in the top picture there would be no trees and I’d get arrested for being naked in the snow.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The other mistake is car-dependency.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Humans can destroy beautiful wild lands without the help of cars.

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But humans cannot have cars without destroying nature.

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who can't drive on snow. Happens less in some places with actual locals who learnt growing up.

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And places where people insist they don't need winter tires even though snow and ice is reality every year. No one and no vehicle can drive safely in the winter with summer tires.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 26 points 1 day ago
[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Step 1: buy winter tires

Step 2: drive the appropriate speed for the conditions

Nah, we get folks from Jersey that come up my way insisting that their bald tyres are totally fine.

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Dealing with the opposite, the non-existent winter.
(For all you Americans: 69.8°F - 77°F)

Temperature graph showing at least 21°C

[–] Syndication@lemmy.today 1 points 23 hours ago

I miss winter so much :(

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 22 hours ago

Then we got Vancouver, it was like 15 a few days ago. Suns out and I'm gonna hit the water this weekend. Should be cold and snowing by now but even the local ski hills look a bit brown still

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one ever warns you about BLACK ICE

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was on the run. I trusted the community would do it 🙏

Also, fuck ICE

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meh. Sapporo was fine in winter. I used buses and trains to go everywhere. Of course that is in Japan and not in some car-brain land.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago

🤫 you’ll upset the Western Grizzly.

I live in a winter themed tourist trap. People are allowed to rent cars even if they've never seen snow before. The rental companies always use cheap unstudded winter tyres to save money. I pretty much see that shit every day for 6 months.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] lime@feddit.nu 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Proper winter tires in the worst of conditions are 99% what you need.

Studs come in to play in rare situations.

Source: grew up driving on ice all winter. Not "snow", just ice. Eventually found Nokian Haakapaliita tires (Finnish), even the worst over-powered, open-diff, FWD car suddenly goes (and turns, and stops) in the worst conditions.

I refuse to use any other tire for winter.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago

70% of cars here use studded tires. they're very useful in wet ice or black ice conditions, which happen a lot here.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why do my taxes keep going up to fix the roads? I guess we'll never know.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

probably because they do it wrong

studded tires are a legal requirement here in some parts of the country and the roads are no worse for it

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

here the main takeaway from studies is that the fewer cars have studded tires, the smoother the road surface becomes, which increases the amount of accidents in bad weather. if less than 50% of cars use studded tires the roads become too smooth in winter.

https://www.tidningendacksnack.se/teknik/e/1272/dubbdackens-roll-och-paverkan-en-balansgang-mellan-sakerhet-och-miljo/

[–] guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there any difference if people use tire chains instead of studded tires?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 day ago

chains are worse for the road and can also come loose at high speed. they're for getting unstuck, not for general driving.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, but American statistics aren't fully relevant to their comment. Sweden has much more rigorous laws and controls regarding tires, and a particular difference is also rules regarding the stud length and depth.

Yes, our studded tires still damage the roads a bit more than "normal" tires, but it's not an astronomical difference. The lifesaving and healthcare costs associated with studded tires weighs significantly higher. Your life is considered much more expendable in the US as well, so of course they say you shouldn't use studded tires on ice... whereas our government research institute says you absolutely should.

I also assume the US uses really cheap asfalt or something? Or because of higher speed limits? Worse driving styles: intensive speed changes instead of calm tempo driving? Despite like 65% of cars using studded tires here, I've seen less road work here in my entire life than during a single year in the US. Dunno.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you've got hate in your heart let it out

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just don’t go out in bad weather.

If you do go out, ask yourself whether the trip is worth your life, or if it can wait a few hours or a day.

If it is worth your life you better have a car that handles quite well, and is equipped with snow tyres.

Too many damn people thinking that they’re WRC snow champions.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Tell that to employers.🤭

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Nebraska_Huskers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I can get both. My dad has a pond and all around it some really old pine trees with some trails made over the years. It's fun to walk through after a snow

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Here it's like one or two weeks of snow and then rainy depression

Oh yeah and storms

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hehehe whenever I see a driver aggressively pass me going 85MPH on the left side when the weather conditions call for safety:

"See you in the ditch, bitch 😄🖕"

[–] Una@europe.pub 1 points 1 day ago

I drive Renault Clio with summer tires on ice, it is fun experience.

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