Still no troops for Ukraine.
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Yeah, pisses me off. The entire defence of Europe falls upon Ukraine's shoulders.
To be fair Greenland belongs to the EU, Ukraine not.
If North Korea can have nukes, Ukraine can have nukes. Every nation in europe should be able to have nukes so long as russia, china, israel, north korea, and america has nukes. Ukraine shoulda kept their nukes, but thats just hindsight. Nato should be giving ukraine nukes, not bodies. Once israel, north korea, russia, america, and china de-nuke (in that order), then we can discuss any further kind of nuclear disarmament. Until that seemingly impossible scenario arises, nuke up, europe.
Maybe back off the propaganda for a minute?
Anyway we are fucked up as Europe. We are digital colony of USA… everything relies on us companies…
Europe finally figuring out that they are about to be fighting a two front war against a fascist invasion.
Oh how the turn tables.
It's 3.
One inside.
Their enemies will be the unlikliest of allies.
Sounds familiar
Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden and Canada are sending troops to Greenland
Putin couldn't be happier by this chaos and distraction from Ukraine. Investment paying off.
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Churchill once said of the Old World being endangered and hoping for the New World to step into the rescue.
But now, makes me wonder if the Old World could possibly do the same, but feels like a long shot.
It’s funny, most of the time when you hear it, it’s this quote
We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
Then it stops.
But the next bit is what you’re referring to
And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Old.
I always thought it was odd because it showed the bond we have.
A government spokesperson for Germany also confirmed to Reuters that soldiers would be sent to Greenland on Thursday. The country is expected to deploy over a dozen reconnaissance troops, according to the report.
:-/
This feels like the time Poland sent eight soldiers in with the US invasion of Iraq.
It's 13. Germany is sending 13 soldiers. Literally the minimum to be able to say "over a dozen".
It's more than they sent to Ukraine!
Hi. I have to step in about Polish soldiers :p I don't know what you're referring to but there were 2500 Polish soldiers deployed to Iraq, 150 wounded and 28 dead. That was during very hard economic times for Poland, still recovering from communism. Somehow they found money for this and sent them with really shitty equipment (cars “armoured” with bulletproof vests on the doors as protection for example)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_involvement_in_the_Iraq_War
These are advance troops that will figure out logistics, where it makes sense to deploy a bigger force. What they need, and infrastructure.
They are also a deterrent, if german soldiers are killed shit will hit the fan.
Often called "tripwire forces" when they were NATO troops stationed in Eastern Europe. Their purpose is to force the adversary to kill some people before it can take any territory, ensuring that they can't simply make it a fait accompli and hope there will be no further repercussions.
It just says that they will be participating in some exercises. Nothing about permanent force.
Yo Mr. Mertz brief this guy on the real plan and what orders you gave those soldiers!
Should this article also state what they will be having for breakfast?
I wish I was still so naive I believed EU has some secret plan to defeat US. Especially Germany, country that was blind to the threat Russia posed for two decades. Yeah, I'm sure they will go to war over Greenland now...
It's also funny that they are open about sending this tiny group of soldiers, something they could easily hide, but are hiding the plan to send a bigger force, something that will be impossible to hide. Kind of silly, really. Almost like thinking that Germany would commit any permanent force to Greenland without informing their own public.
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It's not about realistically fighting of the US if they decide to really go for it, but they will have to kill European soldiers if they decide to do so. This would effectively end NATO and the transantlantic partnership.
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What? That didn't happen. Poland sent thousands of troops to support the war.
200, in the year of the invasion. It swelled to 2,500 over the next five years, then trickled away into a final withdrawal a month before the Republicans lost the White House in 2008.
There were smaller deployments - Iceland sent 2 soldiers, for instance. But it all paled behind the the US at 150k and UK at 46k. Which goes back to the whole problem with a NATO internal conflict. The US is the backbone of European defense. Again, what do any of these countries plan to do against an aircraft carrier group? Nobody seems to have a serious answer.
Serious question: how will a carrier group fare in arctic ice during winter? Will it be what is needed to hold an Arctic island after showing up all bristly in the summer months?
While the USA’s relatively slim arctic-ready forces are deployed on the Atlantic side of the ice, what will be happening on the pacific side?
An answer: they can take it, but when winter comes, holding it will be difficult. The northern NATO members have notable infantry that can use the ice to advantage, and there are only five or six harbours of interest in Greenland.
Honest reaction to a serious question. The American military complex isn’t about specific fighting doctrine. It’s by far the world’s largest logistics organization. The airlift capacity of the military likely means that a carrier group wouldn’t have to stick around.
I have mental images of carpet bombing paths through sea ice. Ice is tough, but 500lb dumb bombs do pack quite a punch, and there is a big fleet of bombers that would operate with relative impunity once air dominance is achieved with the aforementioned carrier group.
Distract it from Putin. Who do you think is running this clown show?
Still better than the orange juice America got from Israel for its wars.
While it's sad that things have even come to this at all, it's good to hear someone is at least doing the bare minimum to stand up to Trump.
Patrolling the Greenland wastes almost makes you wish for a Mojave winter
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