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Star Trek is one of if not the most prominent Science Fiction series in our culture.
Star Wars is one of if not the most prominent "Science" based Fantasy series in our culture.
They really aren't at all similar on the most fundamental level. They just use similar set dressing.
Science Fiction v. Space Fantasy
Yea, that's the right term
Oh my!
I wanted to try Star Trek recently, but found out it's like 1000 episodes and 15 movies, so it might take a while. Though I've heard not everything is worth watching.
Can anyone from Star Trek's fan base provide some more insights on which shows can be safely skipped, if any?
As for watch order, I'm gonna go with release date order, unless there are any special circumstances.
Though I’ve heard not everything is worth watching.
You heard wrong 😎
Seriously, if you ask ten Trekkies you’ll get twelve opinions on what’s good, what isn’t, and why. My best advice is to try everything, skip a few seasons ahead if a show is not resonating at first, and if it still isn’t hitting the mark for you at that point move on to the next series. Most shows* take a while to reach their potential, but until the recent stuff they’re all episodic enough that you can feel free to jump around a bit.
*The original series is the exception, it pretty much hits the ground running.
The ones worth watching in my opinion are, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, finally Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks together. As for The Original Series, Enterprise, Discovery, Cadets, Picard, and the rest can be skipped. The Original Series is fun to go back to but it's so unlike the rest I can't get into it.
Personally, I liked Enterprise. Flock is my favorite ST doctor by a wide margin (though I haven't seen anything newer than enterprise, other than one of the reboot movies).
It's a different feel from the series that came before it, way more ad-hoc with what they are doing since they are the first human ship to boldly explore the unknown.
Putting strange new worlds above TOS is inconceivable to me. S1 of TOS alone has several episodes well above the best of SNW (Corbomite maneuver, city on the edge of forever, Balance of Terror). Though there’s also a decent amount of poorly aged material… pretty much agreed otherwise. Also, I agree they should watch SNW, just not in lieu of TOS
but the shots fired were from red shirt ensigns
What would happen if storm troopers shot at red shirts?
Wow. Simultaneously, endless war and world peace, as no one dies from war.
With exception of the scifi label and being well known they are not even comparable.
I watch Star Wars for spaceships and laser sword fights.
I watch Star Trek for courtroom episodes.
(Although Andor is one of the best political dramas out there and must-see TV.)
Yes to Andor, and before that Rouge One was the best thing to come out after the admittedly cheesy original 3 (before Lucas added all the lame animation over them).
Rogue One is a fine cherry on top of two seasons of Andor.
Star Wars is an action/adventure/drama series that happens to be in space (they called it “space opera” for good reason).
Star Trek is a science fiction series, at least until Fuller/Kurtzman (where it strayed more to action/adventure). You kind of have to bisect Star Trek into pre and post Roddenberry/Berman.
I think the best label for Star Wars is probably “Science Fantasy”. Personally, when it comes to this sort of differentiation, I draw the line at: is there magic?
Unpopular opinion of the day: "The Force" isn't any more magic than Betazoid telepathy, replicators, or transporters.
Not to mention
Wait until you hear about stargate.
Star Search has entered the chat
Babylon 5 wants a word out back. And Farscape is waiting to surprise them both
What's that? Firefly from the top rope!
Red Dwarf waiting to tag in.
Farscape is so refreshing for a lot of reasons, but the quality puppets let them do soooo many cooler aliens than other shows that had to capitulate to the homonoid alien trope
I think it's a dumb debate personally.
I love my space exploration show. I also love my space wizard drama, and my space politics show, and my wibbly wobbly spacey wacey show. I just like goofy shows in space.
Except Picard. I don't care for Picard.
Eh, they both have their place. I can't get behind Jedi being emotionally stunted or the federation not using it's tech to the fullest.
My one exception is pre-Disney Mandolorians. Nothing is sexier than freefalling from orbit on the back of a 6 legged robot dragon with nothing but your platemail and a vague goal of scaring the shit out of locals.
My one exception is pre-Disney Mandolorians. Nothing is sexier than freefalling from orbit on the back of a 6 legged robot dragon with nothing but your platemail and a vague goal of scaring the shit out of locals.
My knowledge of Star Wars is almost entirely pre-Disney, but I am completely lost here. What is that describing?
Post TNG and Voyager, they've been fairly blah with a handful of decent standout episodes.
Maybe it's because I grew up with these shows, and now I'm old I just want something with a bit more heft.
It's just all seems like light entertainment these days. Something akin to The Expanse is what I'm after.
The only real comparison I can draw between the two is both have disappointed me by moving away from their established brands and disappointing me.
What happens when a stormtrooper shoots at an unnamed redshirt?
Storm trooper still misses, but red shirt dies of heart attack. Or they dodge, slip on a replicated banana and hit their head on the Conn and die, while sending the enterprise on a spin near a black hole. Now Chewbacca has to charm nurse Chappel or the Kryptonians will take advantage and board the ship.
Take that AI, this is human made slop. You're not better than me.
I'm not so sure. If we're counting everything that carries the Star Trek logo as a whole, then currently Star Trek is incredibly shit.
Hot take: Babylon 5 is right at the top there with Star Trek.
Idk, Star Wars and Star Trek only share the sense that they’re both in space, overall both very different and we like both. Personally we like Star Wars more because autism brain but yeah start trek is good too :3