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I upgraded from my 15 year old PC to one of the new Mac Minis at Xmas last year, thinking that I would be fine for gaming with my Xbox / Game Pass, and I would "skip a generation" on PC hardware. I have a small Steam / Epic library, but everything that didn't work on MacOS, I had a Game Pass version of.

Fast forward a year. Xbox shit itself, RAM and GPU prices / 2026 outlook are dismal, etc etc

What's my best option going forward for gaming? The only option I see right now is cloud gaming like GeForceNOW, but it seems like such a ripoff.

Any advice?

Edit- a lot of people are fixating on GamePass. I canceled my GamePass sub when the price went up. I no longer have it.

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[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Some friends at work started up a patient-gamer-style Pokémon book club. It's been four months and we're almost done Pokémon Black/White (which may sound impressive except that we started with Pokémon Black/White)
My point is: there's basically an unlimited number of good games that run on old hardware. Not that retro Nintendo hardware is cheap these days, but if you've got some lying around...

[–] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Not an unreasonable suggestion, the list of Mac compatible emulators is really impressive. Pretty much everything supports M1 Macs, even cutting edge emulators like ShadPS4 and Ryubing (PS4 + Switch emulators)

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Cloud gaming is financially contributing to the end goal of turning hardware ownership into a rental service, so I'm staying away from that. Even if it can't be stopped I don't want to add to the funds endorsing it.

I think the way forward is to just be fine with older hardware and getting less demanding newer titles. There's those who only game on a Steam Deck, and been happy with it. Emulating old games is an option too.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not sure what to tell you, but a Mac is the last platform to go to for gaming. Apple has zero interest in gaming and have made the platform virtually hostile to gaming development.

Steam regularly has sales (really good sales, like under $5) for fairly modern games (within the last 10 years).

Wait for a sale on something like an AMD Beelink and use that.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Like I replied to another comment, the Mac was necessary for work (art and music) and was light years ahead of anything else that can be obtained at its price point ($575).

Thanks for the Beelink rec, though.

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[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Game Pass sounds great, but the average game play time is ~2 weeks. You're paying $240–480/year to skim the surface of multiple games.

That's a lot for what is essentially a demo experience. There are better ways to approach gaming.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Get a Steam Deck? You can hook it up like a PC, use it sat around. Though its not a powerhouse. Wait and see how the Steam Machine fairs? There's still a good second hand market for parts too.

Its a shitty time at the moment with scumbag companies and AI, so consumers are completely fucked.

Also: Fuck subscriptions.
Plus the game pass versions of games are complete dogshit compared to the Steam versions most of the time.

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

Here's an idea that won't cost anything: Browser games! There are tons of great Incremental games playable for free on a browser, and plenty of other games too.

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I don't know you, but I have more games in my library than gaming hours in a month. I haven't touched anything released in the past three years, and mostly replay older games and emulators. The entire PS1 and PS2 library, as well as Nintendo 64, GBA, DS, etc... can be played on your fridge, and you can pirate those games for free, or buy their remasters (if they's any) for cheap.

[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don't know what I can tell you.

I'm one of those patient gamers, where I'm just happy I finally have a machine that can play about 89% of the games I have to throw at it. Moreso happier that it can confidently run PS2 emulation, something I've been chasing for years to have a machine that can do, to own anyways.

I think you just need to sit down and contemplate to yourself what you want out of a machine. It's not a good healthy mindset to be fretting about upgrading all of the time. I mean, you made a huge leap already going from 15 years to what you have now.

Also consider that, there will still be games released that look graphically demanding and everything, but will require maybe a 1060 GPU, just as an example. Probably 8GB of RAM. It's only the AAA stuff that wants everything to be tip-top shape. Don't chase those.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is honestly the healthiest take, there are just a lot of games currently out that I want to play but have no way to.

Space Marine 2, KCD2, Stalker 2, etc etc etc

It's just been a good year to be a single player gamer, and I wanna get in on it. 🤷‍♂️

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

The good news is that single-player games tend to age well. Down the line, the bugs are as fixed as they're gonna be. Any expansions are done. Prices may be lower. Mods may have been created. Wikis may have been created. You have a pretty good picture of what the game looks like in its entirety. While there are rare cases that games are no longer available some reason or break on newer OSes with no way to make them run, that's rare.

With (non-local) multiplayer games, one has a lot less flexibility, since once the crowd has moved on, it's moved on.

[–] mohab@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

I played +400 hours last year and most demanding game in my library has a GTX 1050 minimum requirement. There's much more to gaming than yearly AAA releases.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Steam Deck is the answer for now. You may still be able to get one of the discontinued LCD models on the cheap, but GamePass is now as expensive as buying a game every month, so it’s better to buy than subscribe. They also make excellent PCs and homelab devices. We bought several LCD versions for the lab instead of Pi 5s, because they are such a good deal.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've consistently refused to buy in to Game Pass. I still buy physical games where available. If it's only digital, I'll get the Steam version for my Steam Deck.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

you are seriously limited on the selection of games you can play with Apple silicon

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[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The moment Game Pass wouldn't let me cheese the system and get it for like $1-2 a month, I quit bothering with it. I knew they were trying to get people hooked and raise prices. It was only like a year later and then even my friends canceled theirs.

I buy games heavily on sale, or sail the seas.

Luckily my gaming PC is more than good enough to ride out the next 5 years. knocks on wood. 5800X3D + 6800 XT.

For anyone else cross your fingers the GabeCube isn't too expensive $$$.

[–] Rumo161@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Switching to Bazzite (a Linux Distro, made for gaming). No Ragrets so far

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think bazzite runs on ARM macs.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It looks like it doesn't support ARM architecture systems at all, or anything other than x86_64.

https://docs.bazzite.gg/Gaming/Hardware_compatibility_for_gaming/

Minimum System Requirements

  • Architecture: x86_64
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[–] djdarren@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As you already have a Mac, have you looked into Crossover?

So far as I understand, the work that CodeWeavers do with it is the basis for what Valve have done with Proton, so it's the closest you'll get to Proton on macOS. I've seen people running RDR2 on Macs with it. It's a reasonable outlay, but it could be a useful tool for running a whole bunch of Windows-only titles via Steam.

There is also Whisky, which is to all intents and purposes, a free version of Crossover, albeit (intentionally) a couple of Wine versions behind so as to not detract from what Crossover does. I've used Whisky a bunch to play Windows games on my M2 Macbook, and while it's not been perfect, and will likely struggle with brand new, AAA games, older titles should work nicely.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

Ultimately, I don't really use my Mac for gaming these days because it's a bit of a headache compared to just firing up my wife's old PC that I've put Linux on. But I recognise I'm lucky enough to have that option.

[–] BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago

I turned 360 degrees around and installed bazzite

[–] pory@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Never paid a subscription in the first place.

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[–] locahosr443@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Probably a steam deck as they are yet to be hit by the mega price hikes.

Once they are, abandon any thoughts of gaming for a while I guess.

This is only going one way until the ai bubble bursts.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago

What's my best option going forward for gaming?

Probably the same as always: look for a good deal on a used PC. Or buy all the used components and slot them together. The former is usually a better value.

[–] lath@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago

Take a break. Go outside. Enjoy nature.

That's the old price. GamePass Ultimate went up briefly from $14.99 to $19.99 then doubled (from its original price) to $29.99 per month.

I got locked in at the original price. Better yet, I got the GamePass All Access deal right before it went away. That gets you the $500 Xbox Series X and 2 years of GamePass Ultimate for about 35 bucks a month. If you consider GPU to be $15 a month, that pushes the Xbox down to $480. Not a bad deal at all! You get the Xbox and a 24-month code straight up and make payments (it's a credit card with 0% interest for that purchase, so you have to qualify for it). That's why I have an XSX and not a PS5 like I would have liked. I couldn't come up with $500 straight up for a PS5, but I could make $35 a month for 2 years plus I got GamePass.

I still game on my Xbox (I'm a Mac user on computers — we got Cyberpunk and Blue Prince last year, and I own both on Steam, but they play better on my Xbox). I just buy games on sale. I got the Mass Effect Legendary Edition (remaster of the Shepard trilogy) for $6. That sale is still on. They also have Mass Effect 4 for $3 (or $4 for Deluxe) and the first one (OG 360 version) for $5. Bought all of it. Love those games. I got Hogwarts Legacy for $10. That nasty trans-hating Harry Potter author didn't have any input in the game and in fact it has a bunch of gay couples and a trans character to spite her. I really don't like her views and avoided the game for a couple years, but I'm hooked. I love flying around and exploring the castle. I also play Switch games. Those tend to last longer than PC/Xbox games. My wife got Animal Crossing last year and burned out after a couple weeks. I still check in on my island a few times a week. It's honestly a lovely game.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Have a look at the Heroic Launcher. I remember reading it included a feature to play some Windows games in compatibility mode or something?

Apart from that I guess it's Geforce Now, Amazon Luna etc...

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[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Older and or used hardware is gonna be a place to start for CPU and GPU. Used dell optiplex can get you most of the way there, then buy a decent GPU when you can. Just make sure it fits in the case and the PSU that comes with the optiplex can handle the power draw. I'd recommend a new PSU though. Dont buy used for PSU or storage is the best advice I can give.

Optiplex are not gonna get you top of the line performance or anything but it'll be a lot better than nothing and you can always use it for something else later like a nas, a server, home theater PC, etc.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Wasn't Game Pass like $6/mo on PC not too long ago? Who's paying $20 for this crap? The game selection isn't even that good.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Maybe look into a BC-250 build. Basically a binned PS5 chip but you can overclock it to make back some of the performance.

https://elektricm.github.io/amd-bc250-docs/

That or i got a fairly recent office PC that had an AMD 8700G and 32 GB of DDR5 on ebay for 400 bucks. Slapped in a 9060xt and its a sub 800 dollar build. Didn't do enough research though and found out the 8700 only has 8 PCIE lanes even though bios and specs list x16. Oh well, it performs well enough for now.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Play old games, I guess? Arc Raiders is one of the only new games I’ve played in a long time. Recently got an Xbox one to play the golden age cod games.

[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 6 days ago

I'm not. You can still buy valid 12 month Xbox Live Gold subscriptions for under £40, close to the £36 before Game Pass took over. Fuck the new price. The Gold codes translate to Game Pass Core. But if you want Ultimate, well don't let me get between your lips and Microsoft's expensive arsehole

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe try find some games that work on the mac?

There's also this project trying to get linux in a vm to run games on a mac(and also trying to install Linux on a mac, but I assume it might break macOS since bootcamp isn't a thing anymore, so the vm route is probably the better option):

https://github.com/AsahiLinux/muvm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BbJMPfXTbbE

(I haven't tried it since I don't own a mac, just happened to find it when another friend who does have a mac was asking for similar advice to you previously, but he didn't end up trying it either)

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago

Fairly certain that Asahi doesn't yet work with M4 chips, such as in the new mini. Or if it does, it's not officially supported, so will be a generally poor experience. I mean, my M2 Macbook supports Asahi, and while it's generally incredible what theyve been able to achieve, it's still kinda stunted given how much software simply won't run on that architecture.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 days ago

Oh and another option could be to try to find emulators that run on mac, and maybe play some older games exclusive to a platform you didn't previously own, or that you missed playing at thier time of release. Or buy an older second hand console that has games you haven't played before...

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

You don't NEED new stuff to play games. My computer is pushing 8 years old, I just upgrade the nvme or graphics card when needed. I got a refurb 3070 last year for $450 with warranty, can get one on Amazon now for under $300 without warranty. You don't need 64gb to play games, 16 is plenty and you can get motherboards that use ddr4 fairly cheap.

Look around, second hand market is fine, just very the parts. This 3070 will last me a few years minimum.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Check craig's list and FB market place for used parts and hardware. Did you save your old PC? You could still play older titles with it as well as some newer indie games that don't need lots of processing power. If a new PC is a must, purchase the parts as you can afford them then assemble the machine once you have what you need.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago
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