It was probably an admin ban. They ban if non-.ml users downvote anything on their instance. And if you ask about it they'll block you.
Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
Relevant comms
Wow.
All the more reason to simply filter out ml
i just block the tankie triad, instances, unfortunately you have to block individual users seperately.
With PieFed you can block all users of an instance.
Although they can still comment and vote on your stuff (you just won't see it).
do you still have to block the other two (hexbear and the other one, can't remember the name rn.)? I have .ml blocked, but I thought the other 2 got de-federated so blocking them wouldn't be necessary?
Both hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml are defederated from your instance of lemmy.world (see their names in the blocked part of instances, so you are safe there.:-)
Be aware though that you don't truly have Lemmy.ml blocked - that function is horribly misleading and despite how you requested to "block" the entire instance, and how Lemmy devs marketed it as a personal type of defederation, that was a lie and instead users from those instances can still: read your content, vote on it, reply to it, report it, send you DMs, and trigger notifications, the same as any unblocked user. The only thing it does is "hide communities" from that instance so that you won't see those communities, but you will still see those users everywhere else you go across the wide Threadiverse.
There is really no way to block all users from an instance while you are still using Lemmy. PieFed can easily do this (that feature being available for a year ago, though I doubt Lemmy will ever catch up in that respect - the Lemmy devs have little interest in helping people using their software to block their own personal instance), but other than that you would be looking at now-outdated (iirc) 3rd party apps or implementing custom uBlock Origin filtering rules for the web UI.
If you are interested in checking out PieFed, your own instance maintains both a Lemmy and a PieFed version, the former you are already on and the latter at https://piefed.world/, though I think your Lemmy login probably won't work for both?
Thanks for the reply! I found it very informative, also with regards to the blocking.
I do think it's stupid that there's no complete block feature in Lemmy. Also just found out that it apparently has a slower development speed compared to PieFed (with regards to features). This, and the founders of lemmy, are some factors making me consider switching to PieFed. I also heard that there were more features, but also stability concerns. Also most of those extra features are not there on mobile clients yet i believe.
I also checked, and Lemmy login does not work on PieFed.
Most do. After a few months of being a new user, people tend to figure it out.
Nice instance choice!
Seems like the devs of lemmy who also happen to run .ml could add some code to lemmy that lets instances disallow down votes from outside the instance if they want to. Or set it to not display from within the .ml instance so their precious fee fees aren't hurt.
Yeah, they are not powerless to prevent downvote brigades, and serial downvoters. There are a number of ways they can throttle downvote frequency, monitor sources of varying accounts, etc.
But that power would go both ways. It would allow other instances to interfere with tankie brigading!
Thank you for that clarification. I'm surprised, but then I suppose there really isn't much else they can do about vote bots and brigades. A warning would have been nice, but given that Lemmy is starting to show evidence of the kind of bots that are killing reddit (and all social media), I can understand their position.
No, there's plenty they can do. They're the developers of Lemmy itself, they could easily implement something that limited the interaction of external users. Some instances already have downvotes disabled entirely. But I guess they get off on this.
There is a serious amount of serial downvoters and upvoters on lemmy to cause drama or direct the flow of conversation. They might let you back in once they realize you're not a bot or a troll.
Don't act like they just ban anyone who downvotes anything. You've been banned three times for vote spam, and you're literally notorious for downvoting
Edit:
Sources:
https://lemmy.zip/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=22809396

Lemvotes isn't definitive. But damn that's lopsided for sure.
Even so, what does it matter? Where is the indication that a user with a high downvote ratio is doing anything harmful, let alone worthy of a permaban?
Edit: Can someone please ban the people downvoting me? I can't deal with this.
There's nothing indicating that specifically. But if you're downvoting THAT much more, it's notable. There are people I see that I regularly downvote for solid reasons. Hypocrisy, whataboutism etc. But vote totals don't get that lopsided without some effort. All that means ultimately it's the ratio is lopsided.
NoooOoOo you can only have your say with updoots!!!1
I agree with this. Far as I'm concerned, even if somebody only engages with posts they hate so all of their interactions are downvotes, why the fuck should they be banned? What does forcing faux positivity gain us? Yes I understand the value in stopping vote manipulation bots, but imo there should need to be more evidence of bot status or nefarious intent than just "downvotes a lot."
That's a lot of downvotes!
It’s .ml, so it’s to be expected. They have the most fragile power hungry mods around, and zero tolerance for diversity of thought.
Your crime was probably downvoting a post, they don’t like people doing that.
Thats what you get for fucking existing, asshole

It's lemmy.ml, many wear that ban like a medal because if you are somewhat sane you have a good chance of triggering the mods or admins, which are not sane. I've filtered out lemmy.ml long ago, so even if they lift your ban, i'd recommend you do the same instead of engaging there in any form.
Uh. And it's a permanent ban. Not just a temporary timeout for a minor offense... I'd take it as an invitation to switch to different Science/Ask/Open-Source communities on different instances. Might be an improvement anyway. (I mean I myself diversified my subscriptions and left most lemmy.ml ones a long time ago.)
Have you thought not lurking ? /J Aside joking, ml is not a good instance, don't bother with them match. I don't for once.
I'm beginning to see that. I've found a few other science communities in other instances that I think will work better in my feed.
https://mander.xyz/c/science is way better anyway
Mander.xyz is a great instance for science, I consider it the science instance.
Ooh! Nice. I just checked it out and subscribed.
It has happened to me as well! It's the "vote-only" part that triggers it, to filter out bots
Dessalines:
[...] We don't usually allow vote-only accounts on lemmy.ml, those are mostly bots targeting specific users or communities. That's our rule 4, spamming.
Since it was an .ml account I just stopped using it; I don't know what you could do about voting on .ml communities though (aside from using your account to post more)
This makes sense, since I've downvoted .ml posts and admins and haven't been modded, but I wonder if there's a better way to block bots?
You need an account to curate your feed and folks are gonna vote. There shouldn't be an obligation to participate in the comments.
Maybe some kind of random bot test sent to vote-only accounts?
I don't have a screenshot of comment or post that caused the ban, because I haven't commented or posted anything whatsoever in more than six months.
Mod has been very active over the last 24 hours but hasn't responded to me.
So now you're spamming this sub?!?! \s
