Your belief of human goodness went up? Have you been living under a peaceful rock?
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It's also a little inconsistent with at least one other belief on the graph.
Occam's razor? Maybe their growth in belief in people's stupidity explains why their belief in human goodness increased. Instead, they just believe people are incompetent rather than willfully bad? Curious what the mechanism for it looking like a titration curve is though.
I think I get it and kind of share a similar belief. Most people are “good,” although I’d use a less morally relative term to describe it: Pro-social. People tend to behave in a way that works well with others. This makes sense if you think about it without getting caught up in all the “humans bad” philosopher stuff. One of our defining features as a species is our ability to work together. We form communities, developed languages to communicate, cultural norms and laws to create agreed upon guides on how we behave towards each other, etc. We wouldn’t have gotten this far if we were always stabbing each other in the backs.
At the same time, there are some unfortunate behaviors and phenomenon that emerge out of these dynamics. In group/out group thinking, an unwillingness to change things if it means causing disunity with the community, etc. And while I think most people are good, there are different people with different personalities, and clearly we have at least some psychopaths who are willing to exploit peoples’ natures for their own gain. Also, circumstances can create constraints on how people behave. If you can’t afford to be altruistic, you might end up acting in a selfish way, although even then that’s not always the case.
The fact that you can look out into the world and feel bad about all the people who are getting hurt, even if you aren’t personally affected, should already tell you that there is this “ goodness” to most of humanity. Otherwise a) you wouldn’t care and b) all those bad people would deserve it anyway. So that is the hope that keeps me from full on nihilism. Unfortunately I also think that there are a lot of other factors in place which make it increasingly unlikely that we’ll be able to organize enough to survive. Wealth disparities and technological asymmetry allows those handful of psychos to wield a lot of power and it’s getting harder and harder to fight back against that.
So yeah, I don’t think “people are doomed even if most of them have good intentions” is that contradictory of a view to hold.
it correlates with love, so that checks out.
Most people are really pleasant. That creates a power vacuum where the worst are usually in seats of power.
*Most people are really pleasant, unless inconvenienced in some way
Gotta go back to working retail to fix this mindset.
Honestly, most people are zero problems. It's just the those 98% of normal people don't really register compared to that one absolute fucking asshole..
I assume the opposite, OP is actually meeting people in real life and touching grass, instead of doomscrolling and talking to clankers online.
Anyone whose "ghosts" isn't at zero, as an adult, is someone I'm not going to be trusting on any subject.
Ditto "aliens", if we interpret it as "extraterrestrials that have been to Earth".
My friends cousins are all convinced they saw ghosts when they were kids. They also had an uncle who frequently played tricks on them. These two things are unrelated apparently
Ditto "aliens", if we interpret it as "extraterrestrials that have been to Earth".
This is an important distinction.
100% chance there is extraterrestrial life out there somewhere
0% chance any of it has come to visit
0% chance any of it has come to visit
0% chance any intelligent aliens have come to visit. There is a non-0% chance that there have been some microbes on an asteroid. There are some variations on the panspermia theory that suggest that life didn't even originate in this star system. There's no evidence for any of it of course but it's possible.
Real adulthood is knowing there's no logical way to unconditionally prove those particular negatives. What you do with that information is another discussion.
Edit: Also if anybody is interested in reading up in an absolutely fascinating phenomenon, this was a topic that came up during my hospice / palliative care rotations. This article in particular is a systematic review from last year.
One of the most fascinating things about this phenomenon is that it's markedly different from the hallucinations seen with psychosis and delirium (which I'm more familiar with, my specialty being psychiatry). In particular the person experiencing it presents with orientation and cognition that is completely logical, linear, and otherwise intact.
A patient with psychosis often presents with poor understanding of their situation overall, such as not knowing where they are, not remembering recent events, or sometimes not even recognizing themselves. Their speech also usually presents with either thought blocking / poverty of thought, or the opposite—tangentiality / flight of ideas where their statements don't logically follow each other.
Meanwhile patients reporting death visions are typically able to accurately recall where they are, what has been happening, what is likely to happen next, and retain the ability to have linear and reality based discussions. They just also report seeing deceased family or pets, religious figures, etc.
Fascinating topic.
End-of-life visions are Santa cosplaying as people's dead relatives, as he's known to only be visible to those he wishes to be visible to
And, of course, as a real adult you know there is no logical way to unconditionally disprove this particular statement about Santa
Fuck that’s stupid, how the hell could you believe in that kind of incoherent nonsense?
It’s not Santa, you fucking dolt, he doesn’t exist, it’s Mothman. For fuck’s sake.
Edit: Who the hell is taking this seriously enough to downvote?
hey, i have a ghost that lives in my microwave.
first a few things you should know. my entire town was built on an american indian burial ground. like, starting in the 70s they'd have the tribe come out for every new development and help relocate artifacts to [redacted fuck you i ain't telling] and our house is legit burial ground. not cursed burial ground or anything. anyways we have this ghost that turns on our microwave from time to time, seemingly randomly. I named him Smudgy, because we have one of those touchscreen control thingies and i noticed he's active whenever someone with greasy fingers has been using the microwave. and he's really easy to shut up with a soapy washcloth.
i "believe" in ghosts. it's harmless fun.
I don't believe in ghosts or the supernatural, but I've visited sites where America massacred Native Americans and enslaved Africans. What I felt and experienced there can only be described as haunting. Brains do weird things in stressful situations. I get why some people give too much legitimacy to their hallucinations. They can be chilling, compelling, convincing, formative, and even beneficial.
Human goodness should plummet as well
Someone else suggested that the rise in belief in human goodness is a function of the rise in belief of human incompetence. When you start recognizing that people frequently do stupid bad things not because they are bad, but because they are stupid, your heart softens a bit with regards to their intent.
Anti-abortion is a great example. The majority of anti-abortion people genuinely believe that a zygote is an innocent human life, and terminating it is literally murder. If that's what they believe, why wouldn't they do everything in their power to stop it? People are murdering innocent babies!
The more you get to know people, the more you start believing in Hanlon's razor. Most of the "bad" people aren't bad, they're just good people with stupid beliefs.
I love your optimism, but its rather misplaced.
The majority of anti-abortion people genuinely believe that a zygote is an innocent human life, and terminating it is literally murder. If that's what they believe, why wouldn't they do everything in their power to stop it?
But they're NOT doing that.
They're not promoting sex education, which drastically reduces teenage pregnancy and thus abortions. They're not working to increase financial and social security for mothers to ensure having a child isn't a massive risk. They're not doing to reduce sexual assault of women leading to unwanted pregnancy.
They're not doing everything in their power, not even remotely close. They're literally just doing one single thing, and that's the thing that hurts women the most, in the most ways and empowers terrible men the most.
So, given that they're actually not trying very hard, and doing things that benefit themselves, one has to wonder if that's truly a surprising of highly specific incompetence, or intentional.
I started feeling a bit this way when I saw that many Trump voters were genuinely confused and angry that Trump didn't release Epstein files lol
Someone had a very sad childhood to not believe in human goodness as a kid
I found myself among some Mister Rogers quotes and artifacts yesterday, of all possible things.
So just for today I'm gonna push back on this one a little bit. I think the goodness is out there, but unfortunately much of our society is kinda designed to separate us from our humanity and mental peace.
I don't believe in love more than gravity. Gravity has always been there for me to bring me back down to Earth.
So far

Gravity is globist propaganda, wake up!
/j because Poe's law
I feel like the deeper you get into physics, the more that statement makes sense. 😅
Now I’m studying physn’tics instead. trying to clear my mind of what the “observer” will be up to next
Funny, the thing I believe less and less in as I age is human goodness. Must be a generational thing.
Also, gravity seems to be increasing every morning.
Human goodness and society are two different things. There are many great people that do amazing things that don't it for credit or recognition or money. Most go unnoticed.
Society on the other hand is crazy and greedy.
Your belief in Santa went up? I mean, as long as it helps you avoid the "naughty list", I guess that's alright, lol.
There are three periods in a man's life:
- he believes in Santa
- he doesn't believe in Santa
- he is Santa
I've got the belly already, I'm just waiting on the disposable income!
Likely for kids. You gotta "believe again"
You believe in a thing called love?
Just listen to the rhythm of my heart!
There's a chance we could make it now
Wow your love went up so dramatically. Mine is the opposite in a way.
Human goodness is below aliens, lol. :)
I dont know, maybe its just me, but that says a lot about our societies.
I really like the idea of telling people that I believe in ghosts more than myself
Every year I believe that my faith in humanity can't get any lower. And every year I'm proven wrong.
I like using ghosts and gravity as reference lines
Human goodness and ghosts are down for me, aliens is up.
For me the society's ability not to destroy itself is at an all time high, but my light blue would be 'the idea that society is sophisticated and high functioning'
Ah, good ole gravity. No matter where you go, there it is.
Now I have to listen to “I believe in a thing called love” by the darkness