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Oklahoma man firing gun in yard fatally shoots neighbor sitting blocks away, authorities say (apnews.com)

submitted 1 week ago by RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is why I'm a huge advocate for at least one mandatory safety course as a condition of gun ownership nationally. Yes, you'll probably have to pay a fee for that course, creating a small hurdle for obtaining your second amendment rights. But, had this guy taken a class, he would have learned one of the most fundamental rules of firearms, which to know what lies beyond your intended target and controlling the direction of your discharges. And while I'm assuming it's very legal to plink a can in your backyard in Oklahoma, it's a matter of individual personal and civic responsibly to ensure that your activities to not infringe on your neighbors', namely the right to life.

Should this guy have been at a range? Probably. But the fact that he didn't have the common sense to take precations highlights the need for compulsory education in these regards.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Many states already do this. California makes you take a multiple-choice exam, for example.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I live in CA, and that FSC test is a joke, nevermind that many shops have the answer to the test on signs behind the counter. Even then, I'd still say hands on training, like say an 8 hour class, would be more beneficial.

[+] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip -6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, you'll probably have to pay a fee for that course, creating a small hurdle for obtaining your second amendment rights.

Are you only in favor of putting a paywall in front of the second amendment or the others too? What about attending a government course on properly using the internet before being allowed freedom of speech, or a course on world religions before being allowed to choose one to practice?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m still waiting on the militia to be “well regulated” like the law says.

Every time someone suggests a shred of safety regulations, the 2A people all scream bloody murder.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

I'm still waiting on the "militia" at all. This guy wasn't a member of shit.

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

They try to have it both ways, they say that the phrase "well regulated" should be interpreted using a 1700s interpretation, so they say that "well regulated" actually doesn't refer to regulations, it refers to the militia being "in good working order". Nevermind that if your "militia" is shooting up schools, it's probably not "in good working order".

Then, they want the term "arms" to be interpreted using a modern interpretation, and they want the term "arms" to apply to weapons that can be used to kill or maim entire crowds of people, instead of the single-shot in-accurate muskets that were available at the time.

I, like most Americans, support gun rights with sensible regulations such as background checks and training requirements. It's also clear to me that this sentence written in the 1700s (the 2a) is being used as a thought-terminating cliche where they think they can just shout "2nd amendment" as if that's a mic drop and just walk away instead of actually justifying their viewpoint. It doesn't even come close to covering the complex modern realities.

If these 2nd amendment absolutists really want to take their inconsistent interpretation to it's logical conclusion, they're saying that Elon Musk should be able to build ICBMs tipped with nuclear warheads and the government can't infringe on that right.

Clearly he has the means to do so, and if the 2nd amendment means what they say it means then the constitution protects his right to do so.

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago

No screaming here, just curious which rights a random person on the internet thinks we deserve vs have to earn. The stakes here couldn’t be lower.

[–] Tall_Chilchuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Are you only in favor of putting a paywall in front of the second amendment

The gun price is also a paywall. Do you think guns should be free to obtain?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

How about we make the class free if it's your first attempt? If you fail and want to take it again it's 100 bucks or whatever.

[–] X@piefed.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Treat every weapon as though it is loaded and chambered.
Never aim your weapon at anything you do not intend to destroy.
Keep your trigger finger straight and along the receiver until you intend to fire.
Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire.
Always be aware of your target and that which lies beyond it.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 week ago

Life in prison.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Stephens County deputies were called to a home north of Comanche on Christmas Day after Sandra Phelps was shot while sitting on the front porch of a home and holding a child, according to a sheriff’s affidavit. Witnesses said Phelps said “ouch,” and then collapsed.

If only that baby were armed, it could have returned fire and everything would have been okay. More guns is the solution!

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guys, is America fucked up?

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, that's just what mainstream media wants you to believe.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

🤔

[–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The concept "missed bullet doesn't dematerialize" is too difficult for some people, preventing them from creating/visiting a proper shooting range.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

Out of sight, out of mind.

We are so fucking stupid as a society.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If they are blocks away, are they a neighbor? What is the geographic boundary to determine neighborness?

[–] maus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Its relative. In rural areas growing up l, a neighbor could be miles away. Suburban, I would consider anyone in a neighborhood or shared street as a neighbor.

Now I now live in a walkable urban area that has officially recognized neighborhoods with established boundaries.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

In this case bullet range.