Music
Per community feedback, low-effort GenAI posts are disallowed.
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Music has been one of the most powerful tools for human expression since the dawn of time. Ban.
Generated stuff is a waste of bandwidth and storage space. Ban ban ban
I won't listen to AI generated music. It doesn't belong anywhere, in my not so humble opinion.
Ban ai bullshit
Allow AI posts if they are one of the following :
- something interesting that can't be achieved through traditional means
- something that is created in direct lineage of the programmer's work (eg : someone builds a specific AI based system to actually make music in a novel way, like, idk, taking in barcodes and generating music based on the data in the barcode)
- something that is made through a custom workflow that took effort on the technician's part.
- Anything that is procedurally generated as part of a semi-determenistic system (eg : sheep in minecraft pressing buttons by accident , sound of twitter)
Technically, you might need to ban the song "skullgrid" since it was composed using procedural generation software. But, it was composed that way, but then recorded by metal musicians. https://beholdthearctopus.bandcamp.com/track/skullgrid
Obviously, yes, ban slop AI stuff that's "here's enter sandman regge style" , here's my "smoky blues space album" that's just them putting the title into suno AI.
There are also people that worked on this kind of stuff before the AI ... mainstreamisation? Like Dadabots , who worked with the musicians and with their permission and everything. I don't want that kind of stuff to be banned. https://dadabots.bandcamp.com/album/coditany-of-timeness is from 2017 and it would be a shame to lump it in with everything else.
https://github.com/MeltwaterArchive/Sound-of-Twitter ... which is currently down, or deleted or fucking whatever.
Basically : I want to see experimental works that were made using programming and data re-interpretation. I don't want to see "I put farts through AI and here's the generic output".
Technically, you might need to ban the song “skullgrid” since it was composed using procedural generation software
Was the procedural generation software trained using other artists' works? Or is it more like a drum machine with baked-in algorithms written by software developers? If the latter, that's not "AI" in the sense that this thread is primarily discussing.
Or is it more like a drum machine with baked-in algorithms written by software developers?
even better, using a scripting language that calls algorithms.
EDIT : Fair point though
colloquially we all know 'ai' means generative large language models like gpt and copilot. nobody says 'ai' these days - especially in the context of question of the post here - and means sythesizers or minecraft or purpose-built and tailored narrowly scoped machine learning models integrated in software. we would say these other terms we've used here just like we have.
AI “training” is theft from human artists. Ban AI-gen completely.
Agreed. I'll go one further and say disallow "AI" anything...
Soon the internet will be so full of sloppy shit that we need to start creating spaces dedicated to genuine human arts and communication right now.
Yeah, disallow it. It's stolen pap that only makes the unethical corporations richer.
If it's not disallowed outright at least require it to be clearly labeled
Ban it by calling it what it is: spam. We don't even need to debate whether it's "real" music or not. The bots and accounts posting it here are spamming the community for views/plays solely so they make money off their fake content. Every time I've seen it it's dozens upon dozens of posts by the same account flooding the community and contributing nothing worthwhile. Almost always they are even trying to pass it off as genuine musicians.
Yes ban AI music completely. For a comprise I'd be ok with a regular ai music thread if there was any demand but i dont think there is.
That also seems like a nice way of dealing with it
I dunno guys, maybe we should allow it!
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Music is pure human expression. I'd rather listen to the worst human-made music there is than the best AI-generated music.
can we keep the Weird Al stuff though
ha im so funny
Such as? Jk?
weird AL yankovic 🤣
The problem comes from AI looking the same as Al because of the font.
Ban it .. there is a place and time for machine learning, but it's not art in any shape or form!
Ban everything AI
I don't want to talk about clanker work, there's plenty of good work humans are doing
Agree, ban the spam
Ban.
While there is one singular ai song that I actually like due to it mocking abusive customers, I consider it the exception and not the rule.
I vote for banning AI-generated songs.
AI music is a technical exercise, not art. Ban it
Fuck that shit off permanently please
Disallow it.
It might be interesting to hear what average music sounds like, but only once.
disallow.
Shun the Abominable Intelligence.
Until AI music is made that doesn't steal from the collective artistic output of every member of this group, it's a slap in the face that it would be allowed here.
I see more posts about AI than posts generated by AI. TBH, these are the posts I would rather get rid of. As is, I just block the users that spam this crap (sorry OP) just so I can see a post on Lemmy that isn't about fucking AI.
I've seen two takes on AI
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they hate it
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they find it tolerable at best
Even the trash bots who promote it always take a moderate unoffensive stance so they can't shill it too hard.