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Fortunately, this fucking windows partition I only keep for VR with my shitty Oculus Rift CV1 reminds me how fucked up the alternative is. I can't fucking wait to get a Steam Frame and ditch it.

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I never had a issue on Windows with swapping a GPU since before xp.

Just installed a 4070.. I did go to the website for the latest driver, but Windows supplied driver auto detected resolutions just fine. I was done in fifteen minutes including physically swapping card

I hate when people write lies like this, it makes Linux look bad.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 1 points 5 hours ago

Yep, never had a single issue swapping GPU on windows. First time on Linux, I went to the Nvidia website to download drivers. Apparently that's the worst thing you can do (?!) and it took me hours to undo the mess.

Don't get me wrong I still use Linux daily but there's no need to lie. It has some sharp edges and GPU drivers is one of them.

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Every os has issues man. Linux just swaps some issues for others.

I'd much rather deal with Linux issues than windows, but that's just me.

[–] who@feddit.org 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I’d much rather deal with Linux issues than windows, but that’s just me.

It's not just you. ;)

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Which I love about Lemmy. I truly am among friends.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 38 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is disingenuous, if you had an AMD GPU on Linux and switched to an Nvidia card you would be using the nouveau drivers so you would need to install the proprietary drivers to get the best performance.

And lots of the same issues that are listed on the windows side could happen on Linux as well since they relate to connectivity.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia

Seriously though, this is still the same problem on windows. If you switch from AMD to Nvidia, it'll load a generic display driver until you install the Nvidia one either through windows updates (heavily outdated) or GeForce Now (heavy bloat).

At least Linux gives you Nouveau instead of throwing you into a 480p fallback output.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes, but you would need to know to run that command, so it's the same situation as the windows case where he didn't know which drivers to get. So the argument is disingenuous in that it either ignores the case or he has knowledge on one OS that he doesn't on the other. On the other side of the coin someone could be making a similar post saying in windows they just switched hardware, installed drivers and done, in Linux they spent hours trying to figure out how to install the drivers.

I'm not saying it's hard (on any OS) but it requires previous knowledge on both (although to a much lesser extent on Linux since this only happens when switching GPUs and only under specific conditions).

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 48 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The only thing reading something like this does for me is paint the linux community as completely inept and dishonest.

I swapped GPU in windows by downloading the new driver, shut down the pc, swap cards, boot pc that then loads a default windows driver, install the new driver I downloaded, done. If it asks for a reboot, that takes another 20 seconds.

Done.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is, specifically, the workflow for changing graphics cards manufacturers on windows, e.g. nVidia to AMD. If you're just going from one AMD card to another, or vice versa, generally you can just toss it in and reboot a few times, yes.

GPU manufacturers are fucking awful about actually uninstalling their bloatware shit on windows, and it often (potentially intentionally) interferes with other manufacturer's drivers (and sometimes their own, though that's less common these days.)

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Windows Update installed the bare driver for both Green and Red GPUs directly. There’s no additional software needed for either unless you plan to adjust clock and memory speeds or want something specific from the vendor’s software.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that the original post is dishonest, but your solution is exactly the same as what they said with the exception that you knew it would be a problem so you downloaded the driver beforehand. Had you not known that would happen the series of misfortunes could have happened to you too.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I didn’t come here to complain about linux, but the number of distros that give me a black screen after some hardware change or update is more than I can count on two hands. What this post is denying that both userbases have wildly different skill levels because linux generally requires a higher skill level. Windows is over a much more massive userbase that includes people who can’t set the time display on a microwave. And they don’t use linux.

Furthermore, pre-downloading the driver is completely unnecessary as the default windows driver would allow you to continue using the PC and download the correct driver after installation. No “series of misfortunes.”

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Can you give me an example of which distro/hardware change gave you a black screen? Because unless it was Gentoo or something you built the kernel yourself a black screen is extremely unlikely. Unlike Windows which requires drivers for everything, in Linux the drivers are baked into the kernel, so any hardware change should just work out of the box (there are some caveats to get the best possible driver, but even the included driver should be more than enough for almost anything except heavy use on Nvidia GPUs).

I agree that on average the Linux user has more technical expertise than the average windows user, but that's mainly because the average user doesn't choose their OS. If you take into consideration only people who actually chose their OS, I think it's very similar.

And OP talked about his experience doing that, the default windows driver gave him a crappy resolution, and he had lots of issues getting the right driver and making it work. You skipped all of those issues because you knew beforehand which was the correct driver, and pre-downloaded it.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 30 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

I swear that some linux users are some of the most incompetent PC users around.

If this is your experience, you are seriously fucking shit up lmao

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think in either direction, people forget how much becomes intuitive about their OS, and how quickly we can fall into "Works on my machine". I'm sure plenty of people have never had problems with their graphics drivers breaking things. But can you really say with full certainty that some random driver conflict couldn't possibly happen? What if they are swapping from AMD to Nvidia, does your confidence remain?

Everything is easy and intuitive when you know what is expected of you, and everything goes according to plan, but good luck if something gets fucky.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago

Yeah that's exactly what Windows is like. Things normally work fine but when something goes wrong it can be a real pain and often simpler just to reinstall as Windows doesn't always give you good tools to fix it. When something goes wrong on a Linux system there is pretty much always some way of fixing it because it's an open book with good tooling for diagnostics and repair. The problem is things tend to go wrong more often or be more clunky to use in the first instance.

[–] Ashiette@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Frankly, this is EXACTLY the problem that I had, that made me switch to linux.

I had a MSI laptop with a 3060. At first, it was wonky on Windows but overall it worked with a few workarounds. So far so good.

After some times, an update to Windows (I believe) made it that I had to run DDU to uninstall the drivers then reinstall everything. It took me more than one afternoon. Then I still had to do the workarounds.

After a while, I had to uninstall the video drivers at every boot, then reinstall a specific version of one driver, then had to run Windows Update, uncheck one specific little tickbox for the video card to function. At. Every. Boot.

And then, not even that worked.

On Nobara, I just had to install the distro and boom ! It worked out of the box. With the only downside that the HDMI was capped at 1080p 30Hz (when Windows wouldn't even display over HDMI). I think the 30Hz part was a Wayland limitation at the time.

So no, it wasn't because I was bad at Windows. Bloody thing just did not work and made me go full linux.

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[–] ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is how I am with mac os. I'm pretty knowledgeable about computers, so there are a lot of tasks I view as simple that I will attempt to do, only to have it fight me the whole way. I'm sure it's just that I don't know proper protocol, but it's annoying.

Example would be I had some photos on my phone I wanted to put on my mom's macbook. Okay, I have a cable, just plug it in. Well, it shows up but refuses to show files in usb mode. Okay, the photo editor saw the phone, but it was import all or nothing. It wouldn't let me send just one folder. Okay... So I can't copy/paste files from the phone, import is all or nothing. So... I ended up having to put the folder on a usb stick- but the the photo program wouldn't recognise that as a source to import from, so I had to copy the folder to the desktop and THEN import from that. Something that should have been relatively simple turned into a whole ordeal because it was designed for one type of workflow and I didn't know all the little tricks to get it to do what I wanted. I know that's on me for not knowing the easy way ro do it, but when the obvious option 'import' doesn't give me any real options, I have to figure it out.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

The workflow it’s designed for is paying an iCloud subscription to sync the photos. When they introduced that they went out of their way to make transferring via cable a huge pain in the ass.

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[–] CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone 171 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is basically the reverse of how the regular gaming communities treat Linux. Take a best case for "your team", a worst case for the other, and then pretend it's always that way.

There's a lot of good ways to explain what makes Windows bad without being disingenuous :3

[–] wfh@piefed.zip 76 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm not being cheeky. This is my actual experience as of this morning. I'm still fucking angry.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

You are being slightly disingenuous though.

Like the Linux side is just steps, while the windows side had needless commentary that make the list longer.

I'm with you 96% though. Upgrading a GPU on Windows is a freaking nightmare. DDU being required is honestly insane.

On Linux it was painless. Though I do have my share of Linux problems.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yup. I've had massive driver issues with lengthy troubleshooting on both Linux and Windows before. Even had to switch to a completely different distribution once, because it wouldn't play nice with my GPU.

If you pretend like everything always works seamlessly with Linux, you're bound to give people false expectations that will very likely be disappointed.

[–] verdi@feddit.org 3 points 19 hours ago

Regular gaming on Windows Anno 2024 after a re-install where I spent a sizeable amount of time trying to understand why the fuck it is so hard to just run Windows11 with a local account:

Game is stuttering, dafuq(TM)!? Check privacy settings, all were reversed in the last update that I DID NOT install myself even though I sprung the wallet open for a pro license and deferred updates a week or so prior. Check netlimiter, telemetry collection time at Microsoft(TM) WTF!? Double check "local update sharing" is off, it is, it's likely really telemetry. WTF, Microsoft also enabled copilot by default on my machine?! Uninstall Windows. Spend a year on bazzite on both laptop and desktop. No major issues.

There's a remapping bug with the ROG falchion on linux that reauires a trivial txt file creation and copy to stop the keyboard from sending the PC into sleep mode. Otherwise, peachy.

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[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 day ago (14 children)

This is upgrading your AMD GPU on Linux. If it were nvidia then it'd be just as long as the Windows part, from what my friends have said

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, literally just swapped nvidia gpus last week.

Pull one out, pop one in, resume gaming.

If you don't already have the nvidia driver or nouveau, you have to install that and make sure it isn't blacklisted. Reboot and done.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 23 hours ago

Lol every few months I get an update that causes something to fail in the nvidia driver. What? I have no idea, I've not bothered to diagnose, I just restore the last snapshot and wait until another driver or kernel update is out.

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago

I would say by my experience, in order from easiest to most difficult, it's AMD on Linux, then Nvidia on windows, Nvidia on Linux. I haven't had a recent enough experience with amd on windows, but from what I hear its like you either install drivers then it works or you gotta do some crazy shit like op did to unbork something.

I'd still rather deal with Nvidia on Linux than anything to do with modern windows if I have the choice, especially with the insane amount of anti-features+spyware they seem to be shipping it with these days.

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[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 127 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Upgrading your GPU on Linux

-realise you can't afford a GPU and keep your old one

Upgrading your GPU on Windows

-realise you can't afford a GPU and keep your old one

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 23 hours ago

Windows still complains.

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[–] trougnouf@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

There is also the fun part where Windows won't recognize your PC / accept your license after some upgrades...

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yup.

Build PC

Activate Windows

Motherboard develops a fault

Get a refund/replacement

Install it

Windows is no longer activated, because they tied it to the motherboard...

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 6 points 22 hours ago

motherfuckers... that's awful.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

lol sure. When I installed a new GPU while using mint, it never booted again. Even years later when I assumed they would finally have support for the card, same story. Had to move to Ubuntu instead

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 9 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I rolled my eyes real hard at this.

As a Linux supporter, this is absolutely not the case and it's going to piss off every person who swaps to Linux thinking it'll be this easy, and then when they're hit with reality, switches back to Windows.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

The problem they are talking about is specific to Linux Mint, not to Linux in general. Linux Mint is known for not working on newer hardware because of its outdated kernel. Ironically arch based distros would work well here as they always have a new kernel.

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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I also can't wait to never interact with Meta again when I get a Steam Frame.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I switched from Nvidia to AMD back when the 9070XT came out and none of that was necessary with my Windows 11 system. I just swapped the card, uninstalled the Nvidia stuff and installed the AMD drivers. Haven't had an issue.

I swear a decent chunk of these issues are "power users" following guides making changes they don't understand in areas that aren't meant to be modified directly, then months later having issues when something tries to read or modify those areas again.

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[–] moonbunny@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I haven’t replaced a GPU on Linux, but my experience on windows has been to always uninstall and remove the graphics driver (forcing the Microsoft generic display driver) before replacing the GPU.

Then, it was just a matter of getting the drivers installed before I’m good to go. Granted, this was under Windows 10

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Sounds like the Linux user only ever used AMD cards.

You still need to download the drivers for nVidia. One of the top noob questions is "which one?" because there are several options without real explanation... At least on Ubuntu based distro, which a lot of new users will be sent to (i.e. Mint).

The experience with AMD cards seems to be the above; plug in and it just works immediately.

But don't even get me started on Intel cards. Jeezus Effing Kristus. I got mine working, but it's still a damned issue and a half. And you'll have to go driver hunting if you want to do anything artistic with them, which is an absolute rabbit hole on Ubuntu distros. But mercifully much more simple on Fedora and Co.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I used to be a Windows user before switching to Linux, and upgrading a GPU is incredibly simple on Windows. You don’t need Display Driver Uninstaller, but it is ideal to use it for the best performance and remediating future incompatibilities.

  1. Download DDU. Download Nvidia driver (and not GeForce Experience)
  2. Reboot into Safe Mode.
  3. Open DDU.
  4. Pick the option that removes display drivers while shutting down the computer. This option is marked as “recommended” in the GUI.
  5. Wait for job to finish and computer will shut down.
  6. Open case.
  7. Replace with new GPU.
  8. Close case.
  9. Turn on computer.
  10. Open the new driver and wait for it to install.
  11. Done.

Process is almost identical for AMD or Arc GPUs.

I appreciate this is a meme, but if your computer behaves like that, it means it’s borked. I’d fix those other issues, too, and probably reinstall Windows. Most likely that user messed with things they shouldn’t have by following random guides and YouTube videos online. In my decades of using Windows, I never had those problems.

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[–] LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 23 hours ago

I actually had to use Windows to diagnose why my GPU wasn’t working on Linux after a zypper dup… :/

[–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago (9 children)

It‘s literally built into windows update. Installs and updates.

I am a passionate Fedora Linux user but even I have to admit that Windows does Drivers way better. Drover updates uncoupled from the kernel, sometimes possible without rebooting, proprietary drivers installed no problem.

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[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Calling DDU shady is some BS. It's got WinRAR levels of rep. Been around for ages.

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