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The Untied States is literally becoming like nazi Germany and I don't know if people understand that I'm not exaggerating. I legitimately can't tell if people realize that America is now a fascist dictatorship, likely to soon go full on nazi Germany and make it explicitly illegal to be part of certain minority groups, at which point it may be too late for people to leave. I don't know if people around me understand that that's not an exaggeration.

People just keep on going to Disneyland as if it's perfectly safe. It's like watching people go to a store that's literally on fire and nobody is even trying to put it out. It's like people think if the fire department isn't reacting then it isn't happening

and my grandmother thinks it's funny to tell me canada is going to be the 51st state. Yes, so hilarious the fire might soon consume our house too

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[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The president doesn’t have the political capital or enough popular support to take America to war with Canada or the Danes for Greenland.

He can bluster, bitch, and whine but he’s pretty impotent.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

I’m willing to bet he’d try for Greenland. He’s certainly trying to get Venezuela to make the first move.

He fucking sucks I wish there was actually an easy way out of this

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He will do it after a year of bombing Venezuela. He's a big fan of hitler, so he will likely also start an unwinnable multi front war.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe he'll also die like Hitler

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Given his age it's a 50/50 chance. It took very long to get rid of hitler tho. I would wish the American people a sooner resolve.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

MAGA isn't as competent as Nazi Germany though. That was a enonomically devestated country that voted in a dictator to fix things. Nazis were efficient; that was literally the point.

This is more like the fall of Rome or the Soviet Union: a country at the apex of power and efficacy, finally buckling under the weight of its decedance and indulgences, and drinking too much of its own koolaid.

My hope is that MAGA turns into a cold bucket of water for the country. But more realistically, this seems to be the start of a sad corpo state that's going to fall behind the rest of the world.

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

East Germany or the Soviet Union collapse makes the better comparison. Similar mass delusions among the public that all the debt, wars and breakdown in society is normal or will get better on it's own. Loss of the rule of law and truth more broadly. Like after the Soviet collapse, you have oligarchs coming in to take over parts of the system and privatize them. This effect creates the authoritarian system that lead to Putin and those around him. The U.S. has its Gorbachev. Even in Soviet society they had a concept called Vranyo, which translated to the fact that the population largely knew the Government was always lying and corrupt, and the Govt knew the population knew they were all lying and corrupt, and anyone who tried to Plato's Cave it was always shut down across the board from both sides. The mass delusions lasted until the collapse. And even after for many.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ugh, that is very compelling.

Add in a bit more cyberpunk, with how the country uses tech these days.

Also, the US is quite wealthy and developed compared to the old Soviet Union, a confounding factor. That's kinda why I was thinking of Rome.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nazis were efficient; that was literally the point.

No, they weren't particularly efficient. In many cases they were bumbling idiots that got really, really lucky - just like the current US administration.

Yeah there were several make or break moments for the Nazis that could have easily halted the whole thing but they just kept being lucky.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are not exaggerating, except that what you point out is not certain to happen, and way too many people think it's a great strategy to stick their head in the sand, thereby making it more likely to end up catastrophic.

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[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i live here, also feel like this & that everyone else isn't taking it seriously, and am not exactly sure what the fuck to do

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[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The world has always been on fire.

You should really study history for context.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

"Made in Britain"

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"The story of the human race is war. Except for brief and precarious interludes there has never been peace in the world…” - Winston Churchill

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those who support it, didn't think that's the case. They have been brainwashed to think this is all great stuff. I think a lot of them are psychopaths, having no empathy for anyone suffering. They simply don't believe it until it happens to them and then they are outraged. It's nuts.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think it's that they're all psychopaths, or lack empathy. I think what it really is is faith, in a sense. They've been told bad things happen for a reason, that actions have consequences, and thus they have faith that the bad things happen to bad people who deserve it, because the world is a just place.

But when things happen to them, or people close to them, then they know that it's not justified. They don't know about all those other folks, but they know their mom didn't do any bad stuff, and they know they don't deserve this outcome. So only when it happens to them do they go "this is bullshit" and then get angry that the system and/or universe gave them the wrong result.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's kind of funny because you literally described a person that lacks empathy. If they had empathy they wouldn't have to wait for it to happen to them.

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[–] Solano@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel paranoid that Night of 1000 Knives is coming, and it's kept secret to only the facists, and they are all itching for the signal to start.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

My uncle told me that canada is looking to expand its militia by 300k. If thats true I need to look into signing up. I like guns, my countries sovereignty, and I loathe American governments, ideology, and culture. I will absolutely die preventing my country from being annexed or invaded or whatever other stupid thing Trump and the other drooling masses of the USA want to do.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago

Just while you're doing all that, don't stop paying attention to your own country's path. Regardless of what direction the US takes, other countries can also fall victim to the same things we did.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If it helps, many Americans like guns, your country's sovereignty, and loathe our current government. I'm really hoping we can start getting our shit together in 2026.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah well I don’t really see you guys doing anything about it and I have little faith that you ever will.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's fair. I go to protests but they don't have as much impact as we need and plenty of people aren't even really paying attention to what's going on. I'm making some preparations for if/when shit really hits the fan, I wish I knew other people who are as well.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

Violent dictators laugh at peaceful protests.

[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

American here ... can I join?

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[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

because it is.

everyone is coping on a "return to normal' (ie. unsustainable ratfucking) when trump finally croaks.

imo, this won't happen. the people who said violence will be required to remove them will require violence to be removed

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

"return to normal' (..unsustainable ratfucking)

Fuck they got me cause I'd be a consumer for a T shirt with that

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Nazis" have always been a part of America, look at our founding and history.

It's America as usual to me; I fully expect Democrats to win midterms and the next Presidential election, then they will pass a bare minimum of legislation (perhaps minimum wage, it's getting comical); they will also do some unpopular things. This will somehow anger the Christians, who will again "take power", and so on.

The Republican party does not want to eliminate the Democratic party. They both rely on the other, and they also both rely on corporate dollars. See Super PACs for further details.

I don't see that changing any time soon, unless the dollar collapses, then it's going to get weird.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

closer to becoming RUSSIA actually than nazi germany. texas is already almost there, florida isnt far behind.

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[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Grocery prices have gone up like 120% in the last 5 years. The cost of some items has doubled in the last year. There are items that I can't order online because Canada refuses to ship to the US (I live closer to Canada than to most other states).

We are well and truly fucked my friends. Be prepared for things to keep getting worse. We will likely see things we haven't seen since the Great Depression. Go watch "The Grapes of Wrath" and let old Tom Joad show you how it's gonna be.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I heard they got some internet down californeee way

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well sure, there might be a little internet, but how much you think they got out there? With everyone trying to use it at once, it's gonna go real slow like.

It blows my mind how much they cribbed from Grapes of Wrath for that episode. You can literally see John Carradine and Henry Fonda's characters right there hanging out with Randy, same spots they were in in the film

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I thought it was genius.

When kyle walked up the internet , which was just a giant router, and turned it off and on again I died.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

I feel like a single nerve cell screaming out in pain while the rest of the body ignores everything until it's bad enough to go to the emergency room.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's ok we see it clear as day from the outside

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

While I don't see us as nazi germany yet I do see us pretty far along. Even when stopped it just leads to other tactics. They went after the beuracy and with a bit of push back they are using the sychophants they have gotten into military and police entities to attack both internall and externally. There is a real question if there will be masked paramilitary "making it safe" at the next election. Absolutely everyone should be taking every opportunity to be in the streets.

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