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At this rate, finding the last digit is probably just a few years down the road.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 87 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Last but not least, the OS was changed from Windows Server to Ubuntu 24.04.2, a simple switch that resulted in better I/O performance on its own.

Oh boy, here we go.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Of course, find the secret of pi using the Linux version '42, answer to everything'.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

Ah fedora is on 43 now darn

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why is this even related to IO?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess the Windows disk drivers are shit compared to Linux ones.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But what does calculating pi have to do with the disk speed?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I imagine it's about checkpointing the calculation as it's very long.

Point is, if the system crashes, you want to be able to resume the calculation without losing too much progress, so you want to periodically write progress to disk.

That takes some CPU cycles away from the calculation, and if your disk driver is inefficient, it will take away more.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AHH ok yeah that does make some sense.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

The question did too, it isn't immediately apparent why you'd write to disk to calculate pi if you haven't worked in a place that churned a lot of numbers before.

[–] Applesause@mander.xyz 4 points 3 days ago

It's a bottleneck. If you are calculating faster than you can record the results, you have to wait for the write operation to complete before you can do the next calculation.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

What's the 314th trillion digit?

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 4 days ago

At this rate, finding the last digit is probably just a few years down the road.

At least 3.14 years.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 21 points 4 days ago

That's approximately 314 trillion more digits than is necessary to calculate the circumference of the observable universe to within a Planck length.

(The actual number is 62.)

[–] morto@piefed.social 21 points 4 days ago

Last but not least, the OS was changed from Windows Server to Ubuntu 24.04.2, a simple switch that resulted in better I/O performance on its own.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Finally, we can get some precision and accuracy when using pi in calculations.

[–] HairyHarry@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So it is expected to be a last digit?

And what can be done with this knowledge?

[–] teft@piefed.social 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] tomiant@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I think there's proofs to show that won't happen. Don't ask me to find them or explain them, it's beyond my scope.

What I'm waiting for is them finding a repeating sequence of 1s and 0s that when arranged in a matrix form a crude circle. A message to those who can learn to find it, with more to follow.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah, another Contact enjoyer.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago

Movie was pretty good. Book was excellent.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Can't be repeating, but there could be some sort of non-repeating pattern as far as we know

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean if pi is infinite, wouldn't that happen anyway at some point?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that's a given. It's just like there are different sizes of infinite, and more numbers between 0 and 1 than there are real numbers, or something.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's really interesting, and matches my completely groundless intuition. Just because it could happen, even on an infinite scale, doesn't mean it would. That makes sense to me at least.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean math and even science aren't always intuitive, so we have to have rules and theories to go by that demonstrate repeatability. Subatomic physics doesn't even really work like our models say, it's just that the models give the best results in predicting what we'll find.

Another example is randomness. Not all random numbers are the same, it depends on how you derive them as to what you'll get. I guess in some way that's related to what numbers will pop up for an irrational number. It's said with enough monkeys randomly typing on typewriters eventually you'll get a Shakespeare work. It already happened a number of times... since we're in sense monkeys and got a number of Shakespeare works. Didn't even need typewriters.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

So it basically still boils down to a question of determinism vs, well, not free will but, I guess "indeterminism" would be a word for it. Semantics kind of break down at explaining the nature of existence at some point. I wonder if that is true for mathematics as well.

It's like that quote of Alfred Korzybski's, "the map is not the terrain". The explanation is not reality, it must by necessity be something less, or something different from it.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pi by definition has no last digit, if it had one it would be possible to square the circle (even if it wouud require an absurd amount of precision)