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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 9 minutes ago

Unrelated to the article/vid itself, thanks for making both a video, podcast, and an article. I know it is a lot of work, but I really appreciate being able to read it than having to watch a video.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

from the youtube browser comments, "Ladybird is our last hope" seems to be the new standard promotional cut'n'paste phrase

last hope for what, you might ask? well the true anti-woke browser, which is much more important than actually, say, working.

presumably brave is too SJW for these guys, as well as basically working insofar as it's just a chrome reskin

they want the TRUE GLORIOVS FVTVRE that only a nonexistent thing that doesn't fucking work, and won't cos the lead bozo is vibe coding it, can offer.

in fashtech, promises of future glory always beat present day actually fucking working

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

People nostalgic for a past that never was long for the browser that will never be

[–] afporritt1001@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Use LibreWolf or WaterFox and ironfox for android

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

both of these depend on firefox for survival unfortunately, no real hardforks yet.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Just pick one - All Fox functionality without bloatware

Librewolf

Waterfox

Floorp

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sadly, Floorp is going AI browser. I mean, "choice" to pick the bits of rat poop out browser.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

This is a banger of a metaphor

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think I already said this but you're not making me use something called "Floorp" even if it's the last piece of software in the world. Just come on.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 14 minutes ago

There is a wall decoration at the Enschede central station listing all the important companies started there by the local university and all but one I had not heard of (which is prob my fault) but those also all sounded like 'Floorp' I get a chuckle every time I walk past it.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I used Floorp for a while. (The search engine that dominated the industry was named for a child's nonsense-babble word for 10^100; nobody has a leg to stand on here.) It had a rare but persistent (and thus difficult to diagnose) problem of crashing my laptop hard when opening a private-mode window. Also, they're planning to incorporate AI on an "opt-in" basis instead of rejecting it on moral grounds.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

I only use software named after words that aren’t made up. That is, I don’t use software. I post here by waving copper wire at telephone poles to bit bash my way through the tubes.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

The search engine that dominated the industry was named for a child’s nonsense-babble word for 10^100;

And how did that work out in the long term? There were warning signs!

[–] figjam@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

So thats a no on "Floorp" then. Good

[–] TrashGoblin@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Zen is AI free, at least so far.

[–] self@awful.systems 50 points 2 days ago (11 children)

if you’re here to recommend ladybird, tell us why you’re doing advocacy for that trash fire in spite of the well-sourced, ah, downsides pointed out in article and video linked from the OP.

same for brave. I don’t give a fuck if privacyguides told you it was the goodest browser.

if you’re here to advocate for ladybird or brave and haven’t read the article in the OP, fuck off. don’t come here pretending to discuss something you haven’t read.

[–] self@awful.systems 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

important addendum: your reason for advocating for shit browsers owned by terrible people will be read out loud in the clown voice it deserves

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Lemmy needs a feature where we can click a button on a comment and make everyone see that comment in Comic Sans.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 17 minutes ago

Careful, don't slander Comic Sans. It is an asshole, and has the party people on its side.

(I also think the font gets too much flak, perhaps to really show our distaste of the comment make it the fraktur font, and flip it around (I did recently learn that flipping a front upside down/around makes it very hard to read for people who have trouble visualizing things in their head, which I had not thought about as being an issue)

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so I’m not saying I’m writing this down for the Lemmy clone’s features list, but

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 4 points 12 hours ago
.comment-node :has(.text-danger) {
    font-family: "Comic Sans MS", "Comic Sans" ;
}

Sorry (not sorry).

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

coming in rizz i'm sure

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 23 points 2 days ago

On the subject of Brave:

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ it really has a little bit to many controversies. (And the list is downplaying some of it, the wikipedia clone added wasn't just some random one, it is was the one created by the alt right, neo-nazi Vox Day. Addition of which by the CEO should be enough to not want to use the browser at all).

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It always amuses me when people fall in love with the next “but they’re one of us!” tech companies. You can’t say shit about it without getting destroyed by fanbois, but when they turn out to not be one of us, you’d damn well better keep your “I told you so!” to yourself- because they never let you tell them to begin with.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 56 points 2 days ago (8 children)

you_were_the_chosen_one.gif

I jumped ship to Librewolf a year and a half ago (after seeing Mozilla steal people's data and sell it to advertisers), and I'm pretty fucking thankful for that. For anyone looking to leave Mozilla to rot, I highly recommend it.

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