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[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 157 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I remember one of my first thoughts on the Deck was "even if this fails commercially or can't play any new games, I want it for old games and emulation. Even if it goes nowhere else, it would be worth it for me."

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 70 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It ended up being more powerful than I thought it would be. I thought I'd just be playing some retro 2d games and really old 3d games, but it ended up running some new titles better than expected to be able to play them on the Deck.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Running games at 800p targeting 40fps is a lot more viable than I would have expected just looking at the numbers. It looks great for a display that size and 40fps feels like it's a lot closer to 60fps than it really is.

I get why people using it as their primary gaming device would want more power but as a secondary device for me it's stellar.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

and 40fps feels like it's a lot closer to 60fps than it really is.

Counter-intuitively, 40fps, not 45fps, is the mid point between 30fps and 60fps, so it really is closer than what a lot of people think.

On the surface that seems impossible, but looking at frame times tells the story.

Let's divide 1 second by 30, 40, and 60:

  • 1 / 30 = 0.033s per frame

  • 1 / 40 = 0.025s per frame (0.08s less time per frame than 30fps)

  • 1 / 60 = 0.017s per frame (0.08s less time per frame than 40fps)

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[–] M600@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Last night, I was playing cyberpunk without any problems. That’s pretty insane in my opinion.

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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's me. Also it was based on Linux, so its not a waste of hardware, because I know a Linux operating system works well with it. I wasn't even expecting it to play new AAA games developed for the newest console generations.

[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is so important, especially as we live in an age where tech being churned out that ends up as paperweight is the norm. Being solidified in the Linux kernel we know this thing will live on for decades until in 2080 they will pull the plug on the x86 architecture and you'll be one of the 3 people still around to remember it

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[–] xep@fedia.io 20 points 2 years ago

Funny thing is, now that I have it I keep finding uses for it. Sure, some of it is "well I've got it now so why not?" but I didn't expect a handheld pc of this configuration to be so handy to have around.

[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 120 points 2 years ago (2 children)

and that's the secret to a good product

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And it's why I hate capitalism as a consumer.

"People need an incentive to invent things!"

Well, if that incentive is making money instead of making a great thing, it's probably not going to be a great thing. Great things make money.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh hey, that’s why I hate capitalism as an engineer. The endless pursuit of profit first rather than making good things that people want is disheartening as someone who just wants to make things that make life better

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Listen. We need you to shave another $0.13 off the cost of the unit. Just like, reduce the quality a bit. No end user will ever notice.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

3D printing is such a boon for this. You can make things for yourself put it online for free, and other people can also make it. There's no need for a profit incentive. I hope in the future everyone owns a 3D printer.

[–] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Exactly, if you want a good product, have the developers make what "they" want. Usually works out.

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 81 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love this so much. It reminds me of how AMD Threadripper came to be.

Apparently Threadripper was a skunkworks project by some of the engineers at AMD that they worked on in their spare time. They wanted to see if they could basically slap together a bunch of normal CPU dyes into on mega chip with a high speed/bandwidth interposer connecting them together.

It was almost abandoned and they had to fight to get it taken seriously. But it proved to be a viable product, and singlehandedly was responsible for decimating what was left of Intel's place in the HEDT market so badly, that after several years of failed attempts to keep up, Intel officially announced that they wouldn't be competing in that space anymore.

It's such a cool thing when talented and passionate people come together without having to be subject to strict marketability and just try to create something awesome and revolutionary.

The Steam Deck kicked off an entire new market for handheld gaming devices that had real power to play modern PC games. And despite a bunch of competing and copycat products, the Steam Deck is still king.

I love mine, have close to 200 hours on it, which for me is a ton. I've barely gamed on my main PC in the last year, it's just so much more comfortable to play on the couch or in my bed.

[–] Player2@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

It's just too bad that AMD is also not competing in the HEDT space now, leaving no reasonable options whatsoever

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It really shows, because it's just a well thought out, no compromises device. I'm still crossing my fingers hoping that they're getting somewhere with the steam controller 2 prototypes that I'm sure they're playing with if only for shits and giggles

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

The first one didn't sell that well, so doubt it. Which is a shame, since it's the best controller I ever had. If they removed the buttons and put in a joystick (or removed the right Gaben nipple) it would've been perfect.

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

But so many people have decks now, it would make sense to market a dedicated controller for docked mode. At least that's what I'm desperately hoping for.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's also what got me to finally go linux full-time.

I had tried to a couple times before, but always ran into one too many snags.

When the deck was announced I thought to myself "that can't work with every game, can it?" as I'd attempted that myself.

But I had to see for myself, and the improvements in proton were staggering. And it's gotten even better since! Who would have though Apex Legends, Hunt Showdown, and a bunch of other holdouts and anti-cheat games would be running on linux within a year of the deck releasing?

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

it's the year of linux on the toilet!

[–] kholby@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When I heard of it, I was wondering who that was for and what was even the point. Since I got mine, I barely play on my desktop PC anymore. I really didn't expect to live it this much.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago

This is a shared experience.

Every single person in my circle gave the biggest wtf to it and when they finally got it, talk about how they rarely use their gaming PC.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

I'll be real, before the Steam Deck existed, I was toying around with the idea of either building something basically like it, or how to slap a Steam Link into that kind of formfactor (3d printer, breadboard shenanigans, etc.)

Was very pleasantly surprised when Valve announced exactly what I wanted. Have been happy with it ever since.

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

still loving and using it. grabbed bf1942 from the archive.org, now playing in lan with friendo and 255 bots. epic joy.

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[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

There’s another product that probably was this and ended up… somewhat badly. Valve index

It wasn’t bad in itself but the whole vr thing kinda missed the chance for whatever reason and now Zuckerberg took over it mercilessly. Maybe it was naive to think it will ever take hold outside of simming

Still the beginnings were real fun and that valve demo was so real I had panic attack from past me agoraphobia while in tutorial

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Yeah, it's really sad. VR is great for some experiences. There's just two issues with it. The largest is the price. It's pretty expensive for something that doesn't have much content. The second smaller issue is that it's too hard to swap into and out of. I can just sit down at my computer and instantly get into something, but switching to VR takes effort.

The price can probably be solved over time, assuming we keep making VR hardware. The convenience is harder. I don't think there's a solution to that, at least not in the near future.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I am impressed with how many games are now playable on Linux with Proton and how well they look and play, to think this game meanwhile has graphics glitches on the PS5. I might get one myself.

[–] RacerX@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (10 children)

While you're all here what controller do you use for your deck? Been thinking of getting one of the hall effect 8bitdo ones, but I'm open to trying anything.

[–] Sheltr@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OG steam controllers for me!

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

That's how all products should be

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I got one to replace the Xbox that I've had hooked up to my tv's since gen 1.... absolutely no regrets.

I have a 14+hr travel day coming up in the next couple months and it's going to get it's first work out as a portable, lol.

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