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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

The peroxide and vinegar that people will have on hand will make such a dilute concentration of Parecetic acid, that it's effectively harmless.

You have to go really out of the way to get anything above 6% peroxide and 10% acetic acid

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Freeze the peroxide, boil the vinegar. Household chemical accidents with more involved steps.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The peroxide is the hard one.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean… Walgreens carries 40 Vol hair bleach. Typically that’s %12 peroxide. You can usually get industrial sizes locally too if you live in a larger city, people use it for retro-brighting.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Hrmmmm.... Neat!

[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Anything that requires you to source chemicals online from specialty suppliers is going really out of the way.

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[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If your grocery store has a section for natural cleaners, no dyes, scents etc there will often be cleaning vinegar that is higher concentrations. It's really not that hard to find and most people won't have to go out of their way to get it.

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[–] Anivia@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You have to go really out of the way to get anything above 6% peroxide

All the peroxide I ever bought has always been 12%. But I'm from Germany, might be a regional thing

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

aww I wanted to melt stuff :(

[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Wait chloroform is really that simple to make?

[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is. It also doesn’t work like it does in the movies so unless you’re looking for an industrial solvent or a bad high it’s not good for much.

[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m not looking to make it, just surprised it was that simple. I had no idea!

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

Phew, that was a close one. Plausible deniablity 😎

wait, is this thing still on? 🎤

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not necessarily the cleanest reaction, but yes. That said, if you're thinking of its Hollywood use case as a quick knockout agent, it's not very effective for that purpose. It's not non-hazardous, though; exposure for several minutes can cause dizziness and fainting, and prolonged storage can lead to phosgene formation through autoxidation.

[–] somethingsomethingidk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm thinking the more Fear and Loathing use case

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are you thinking about the Ether scene? Ether Chloride.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ether chloride is not a thing. Ethyl chloride (chloroethane) is, but in fear and loathing, they're likely referring to diethyl ether. When people say "ether" it's generally accepted as meaning diethyl ether.

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Isn't chloroform a known human carcinogen?

I've accidentally mixed those two ingredients together, very stupidly in my younger years, for misguided cleaning purposes and whatever that reaction is, it's nothing like ammonia and bleach, but it still set off my spidey senses enough to know I needed to get out of the area and never do it again.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It not a known carcinogen. It is in group 2B from the IARC, labeled as possibly carcinogenic. There is some evidence that it might cause cancer, but not enough to say with certainty.

The scale is based on levels of evidence, not severity. Group 1 known carcinogens includes many things from Plutonium to alcohol and processed meat. Rankings are by evidence, not dosage.

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[–] becausechemistry@lemy.lol 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Chloroform is the third most dangerous thing on that list.

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[–] scoste@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reminds me of The Never Song by WKUK

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

never go to a farming store and then buy...

[–] modus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget hydrogen peroxide and acetone!

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

TIL how to make explosives.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I’ve mixed all this stuff. Not that I’m recommending it at all. But the output is ridiculously small, you’d probably have to go to extreme measures to concentrate the output in order to have any effect or go out of your way to find more concentrated versions of the chemicals. Most of these consumer products are so dilute the reaction is minimal.

That said, again, don‘t go mixing this stuff for lols. Someone will always find a way to make it dangerous.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hardware store bleach and ammonia come in many different concentrations for different uses, bleach and ammonia specifically do not mess with, it is an exothermic reaction that puts out poisonous caustic gas and people have died from mixing these two at cleaning chemical strengths. "The concentration available to consumers" is a super dangerous generalization, fairly high concentrations are available for diluting at home or for pool treatments. You can absolutely make incredibly dangerous compounds by mixing things from the pool chemical aisle.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

bleach and ammonia specifically do not mess with,

Yeah, even in cleaning dilutions, it makes a dangerous enough amount to be a problem indoors. You start scrubbing around a toilet, back in a corner, and things get bad quickly.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

FYI: Chloroform doesn't work as quickly the way cartoons depict it.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Far easier to use chlorine gas and get into necrophilia

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah could go with Jesus, but you need to be quick. He tends to rise from the dead after a while.

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Hey baby, does this cloth smell like chloroform to you...?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait, real vinegar or distilled vinegar?

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My father: I found something new today, was trying to clean up (something in a car) I couldn't get any traction, I ended up mixing together bleach and ammonia, it REALLY cleans well, but it's awful to breate in.

me: Dad, that's how they make chlorine gas, probably best not to use it.

My father: ohhh

edit: yesh chloromine, but it would have been lost on him

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When you see someone at a protest handing out bottles with smaller bottles inside, you have only a minute to make your decision.

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