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First off, I have no interest in being a mathematician. Math was always and continues to be quite difficult for me.

So, as an outsider to advanced math, it blows my mind that there are people who's entire job title is mathematician. How does that work? What does a mathematician do?

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[–] titter@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

theoretically

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

same way most of higher-academia does, by living off the investments of your parents

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Agencies like the NSA really like mathematicians so there is use for them in cryptography

[–] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Mathematicians are very sought after in finance and (quantitative) consulting as well as in software engineering.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

$1 + $1 = £²

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 35 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

You get picked up as a pet project by the Financial Engineering Professor at your college who teaches you a lot of statistical wizardry and sthochastic calculus and grooms you to become his newest and greatest quant he can brag to his Wallstreet buddies about. They have already seen your projects with the professor, the interview is pomp.

You make 2M your first year and are making well over 10M by your fifth year. You work 80+ hours a week, making some other people very, very rich. After a decade you are very burnt out and wondered why you ever wanted to do this in the first place. You quit your ridiculously high paying job at your hedge or whatever fund and move to upstate NY to get your teaching credentials and then go teach maths to high school students who will ask "when will this ever be useful" and you smile in your quietude over the whifs of the coffee in your thermos as the students finish the pop quiz of the day.

That's what mathematicians do in my experience.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago

congrats on being rich af

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I feel like Vince Gilligan wrote this

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago

My son has a math degree and does computer programming.

Years ago one of my old military bosses had a math degree, he did stuff for national security. Secret secret stuff. I assumed it was all codes and decoding.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago

Danny Moses: You're completely sure of the math?

Jared Vennett: Look at him, that's my quant.

Mark Baum: Your what?

Jared Vennett: My quantitative. My math specialist. Look at him, you notice anything different about him? Look at his face.

Mark Baum: That's pretty racist.

Jared Vennett: Look at his eyes, I'll give you a hint, his name is Yang. He won a national math competition in China! HE DOESN'T EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH! Yeah I'm sure of the math.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I knew two mathematicians, both worked at NASA. Met one coaching dance (side job) and one gymnastics (his retirement job). I'm not entirely sure what they did exactly, beyond "math".

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

I got offered a job at NASA. It was very tempting, primarily because I would have gotten to see space maneuvers.

However, they had no WFH openings and the department that was offering me a position was only using technologies with which I was already familiar. Unfortunately I had to decline.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You out math people who have money so they give money to you.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

The trick is you make it a complex black box so that no one knows how it works. See debt derivative models.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

Woah slow down.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Finance, there's a whole lot of arcane statistics underlying risk management.

Tech, the bleeding edge of computer science is really just applied math.

[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought applied math was just buying a silly amount of apples...

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 87 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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So the 6' 4" guy in finance is just a tall math whiz?

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

Well basically, people pay you to do math.
Hope that helped

[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I assume you mean ppl who literally have "mathematician" as a job title? A few I could think of...

  • I'd guess most likely as an academic researcher. There are academics in just about any field you could imagine, a lot of which are even more abstract/"useless" than advanced math. Not a traditional "job" in the sense that academics don't directly add value to the economy... but are paid to do research that hopefully other people can add value based on. Downside is that these job openings are insanely competitive especially for the aforementioned "less useful" fields, because they are based on an organization having spare money to support research...
  • As a cybersecurity researcher maybe? A lot of modern-day cybersecurity (the original "crypto", before it became associated with bitcoin) are based on advanced math, so I'd imagine such expertise is still needed
  • Somewhere in finance maybe? A lot of modern-day finance are built on data science/statistics, although I suppose this job fits statisticians better...
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago

Applied math works everywhere, from engineering, to public health, finance, logistics, insurance...

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Data analysis, data science, teaching, statistician, coding, finance and stocks

[–] nostrauxendar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's similar to how there are witches on Etsy that you can buy spells from. A customer goes on Etsy and pays a mathematician to do a love sum, or a death calculation, or a good luck multiplication.

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 days ago
  • Teaching
  • Research jobs
  • Tech
  • Wall Street shit
  • Accounting
  • Loss protection such as fraud prevention or forensic accountiing
  • Sell dime bags outside your local convenience store
  • stripping
  • painting houses
  • carpentry
  • day laborer's
  • pouring concrete.
[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had a math teacher once tell a joke:

What's the difference between a mathematician and a large pizza?

A large pizza can feed a family of 4.

Although he was a teacher, so he was making alright money I think. But he also looked like Billy Corgan and was a ninja (well at least some degree of black belt).

[–] grissino@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Ah, professor Seldon. I've heard of him

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You work somewhere that can afford to pay you. Physics labs helping research. Universities doing theoretical work. Or you teach.

Those are pretty much it.

Im an electrician so dont expect more insight from me

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or software development. Math majors tend to make good programmers.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 22 hours ago

Their job title isn't mathematician though.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Maths is the cornerstone of engineering and science. It's probably one of the most versatile skills. Add physics and you have a control/electrical engineer. Add computer science and you have a programmer. Add economics and you have an equity trader. Maths alone has huge scope in research.

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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What does a mathematician do?

My guess would be maths.

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, of course. But what math? For who? In what setting?

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Pure mathematicians often answer questions that really only other pure mathematicians care about, but occasionally their results or techniques have relevance in other fields, so universities will pay them to work on this stuff and publish papers. Usually part of the job is applying for grants to fund your research and teaching students.

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[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I very briefly had a job as a mathematician for a company that certifies pokies (slot machines). I was technically also a software dev, but my job mainly consisted of calculating the theoretical average returns for each machine, writing basic code to simulate the machine for millions of games and then making sure those two numbers matched. I'd pass that on to a physical testing team who hack them to run real games.

It was a horrible fucking job and I got out basically a month after I finished my training. All we did was prove the machines were exactly as profitable as allowed in whatever location they were going to be deployed at...

Now I work as a regular software developer and it's also a horrible job.

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