If anyone hasn't figured it out yet, Republicans want everyone who isn't rich to die. We are roaches to them and anything they can do to step on us is a step forward for them.
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Eh, I'm somewhat for less shit to break. But I also think cars should be the size of the 90s Miata. And simple enough people can work on them at home.
I'm against most of the nanny safety items that only exist to annoy me if I do something potentially unsafe.
You are not alone on the road. Even if you actually believe you are a safe driver, accidents can happen. Imagine a drunk teeing you, and you'll be glad for those "nanny safety items" that will save your sorry ass.
nanny safety
Please say that again when some drunk or texting dip shit just drive over your daughter or something
These "nanny" things are about tens of thousands of deaths. Only Republican assholes would refer to mitigating those numbers as "nanny"
only exit to annoy me
Seems like they think about safety as something for them, not others, a mindset that I expect from every large vehicle driver.
Witch nanny systems specifically only annoy you if you do something unsafe ?
Dinging noises for seatbelts, for instance. I always wear mine. But I don't think cars should annoy you if passengers don't. Or if I put something in my backseat.
I genuinely just want a basic car. No frills. No nav, no infotainment, just a basic radio with Bluetooth. I don't want lane assist, or for the car to have radar when parking telling me how close I am to the drive thru window.
I absolutely think they should. Seatbelts are legally required to be worn in almost every western country. It isn't, and shouldn't be up to you if you wear it or not. And whilst a lot of people do it, something heavy enough to trigger the seatbelt sensors should absolutely NOT be unsecured in your passenger seat, because it absolutely IS going to turn into a lethal projectile if you crash. Heavy items need to go in the boot, tucked in the foot space, or be belted in.
A crash without seatbelt is going to lead to far worse injuries, which will put a bigger strain on emergency services, hospital infrastructure, you're more likely to require organ or blood donations for injuries that could have been trivially avoidable, blood an organ which are already in short supply, and then can't be used on someone who actually COULDN'T have avoided their injuries, and the accident can be far, far, far more traumatising and mentally devastating for others involved if you go flying 10 m through your windscreen and your mangled body wraps around a tree.
If you're willing to accept all that just because you don't like a bleeding seatbelt, frankly you deserve more than to be dinged at.
Oh great nanny, I'd be so dead and dangerous without you. Thank you for reminding us all how much we depend on you to save us from our own stupidity.
So you think it's smarter to wear a seatbelt, you wear yours but are somehow annoyed that it might ding at someone else for something you yourself think is unsafe and wouldn't do? Let's ignore the fact it's law to wear it in almost every state let alone city. I for one don't want to have someone turn meat torpedo and kill themselves let alone someone else.
The backseat warning is so kids don't get left in the back as easily and neglectful parents have an extra step to ignore which plays against them in court. Are you somehow for some reason for children playing pizza oven because their parents neglected them?
I'm just curious, are you also against it being illegal for fridge doors to be produced with a latch that only operates from outside the fridge?
So you think it's smarter to wear a seatbelt, you wear yours but are somehow annoyed that it might ding at someone else for something you yourself think is unsafe and wouldn't do?
Yes. Or for my backpack thats in the backseat and sitting just right to trigger the sensor.
The backseat warning is so kids don't get left in the back as easily and neglectful parents have an extra step to ignore which plays against them in court. Are you somehow for some reason for children playing pizza oven because their parents neglected them?
Don't misconstrue my words to say I'm for roasting kids. But I am against the constant alerts without any means to turn them off.
I'm just curious, are you also against it being illegal for fridge doors to be produced with a latch that only operates from outside the fridge?
That's a ridiculous false equivalency. The things I'm against are annoyances, not trapping people in cars.
Cars make noises for fucking everything now. I'm not against rear view cameras on the surface. But mandating things like that also mean mandating a screen in the car, usually the infotainment system. And I prefer cars without screens.
Any single thing, I'm not particularly against. But it's been a cumulative effect where there are too many things where I can't make a decision on how an object I bought and own behaves.
It's shit like not letting me, as a passenger, use half the damn infotainment because the vehicle is in motion.
Seatbelt sensors, automatic brakes and back up cameras are not annoyances dude. They LITERALLY fucking save lives.
Reverse roll overs are on of the most common types fatal car-pedestrian accidents involving children, and they can be entirely avoided by having rear cameras, and or/lidar with auto braking.
Driving a car is incredibly fucking dangerous. In fact, for the average person, driving a car is likely one of the most dangerous and risky single actions they are ever going to take in their lives. And it's concerning that you seem to think it's like riding a bike, and the safety features are overkill.
the only life a republican values (other than their own) is that of a fetus, and even that is temporary.
And only if the fetus ain't miscegenated...
Yep, that $2 sensor is really driving up costs.
If we're talking about the radar+cameras, it's about $30-40 each. Not insignificant, but for basic AEB it's a small price for something that massively reduces collisions
And running the wiring with the rear lights wiring is sooooooo expensive to install.
Honestly the Canyonaro doesn't even seem that big anymore.
Capping the luxury features and size of passenger vehicles would do a lot more to bring down costs than removing safety features.
The average cost isn't the problem; the base cost is.
There are good arguments for limiting vehicle size and weight for safety reasons, but that's a separate issue.
OMFG, these things (I can't call them people) are monsters [get rid of rear-seat reminders]!
Compact cars are all in the low $20,000 range, so I don't know what affordability problem they're talking about for vehicles. Oh, that's right, many Americans have an insatiable desire for mobile fortresses that cost $100,000. Well, I'm sure not having ABS or rear cameras on those will turn out well for everyone else and shave off $500.
And I've never been inconvenienced by an alert that I had stuff in the back seat after a trip to the grocery store. It keeps forgetful parents from leaving their kids in hot cars, especially in the aforementioned parking lot tanks.
I basic light truck ran $19k in 19. A sedan, $14k.
Wages haven’t gone up.
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Let R's own making seatbelts optional.
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