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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The government will bail them out. They want the AI surveillance power but don't realize how flawed it is. MK Ultra went on for 20 years before they realized they can't use LSD to mind control people..

[–] StannisDMannis@lemmy.today 1 points 21 hours ago

Wow, $207bn by 2030? That's a lot of money to lose! Maybe they should focus on making some actual profit instead.

Corpo's saying that it's not a bubble in the face of this reminds me of "don't look up" except more malicious.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These headlines look like something out of the twilight zone.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago

If someone made a movie with Donald Trump as president and the whole AI slop in 2010, people would not like it because how unrealistic it is.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone needs to shut that shit down- ASAP.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Leave it on long enough to fully kill FB, Insta, X, etc. THEN shut it down. We're like 1/2 way there already

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

AI companies make up 1/3 of the current stock market value in the US. Nvidia alone is 7% of the stock market. 92% of 2025 GDP growth in the US has been from AI. They will get bailed out.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 18 points 2 days ago (14 children)

I think they're too big to bail out at this point

Also, no one wants US bonds right now, so we couldn't borrow our way out of it even if we wanted to. We'd just have to print like a trillion or more dollars all at once

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

With the financial genius in the white house, I wouldn’t rule that out.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am at a loss to what that would even look like. The bubble popping would mean the admission of AI (LLMs) not having a viable path to usefulness or return, so then what would a bail out even be? Money? To what end, the bubble would have burst and the idea of AI (LLMs) being anything but a money pit would be what makes the bubble burst in the first place. Unless they can show a path to profit (they can't) then the bubble will burst in time or continue in an endless zombie state where they just pretend that somehow AI (LLMs) are the future while burning capital. If it does go into a zombie state (as so many other things in the us market are becoming) then the whole market will just slowly fail as the "hype" turns into disappointment. The only reason that the zombie state would be preferable is that entities need to invest their money somewhere and maybe some other thing in the market can take AI (LLMs) place, but even then why bother bailing out anyone?

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Investors could be bailed out. As in you invested 10e11$, so now the government gives you that money back.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Bail out almost anyone that bought tech stocks? Seems unlikely, and it would be basically admitting the end of the stock markets legitimacy. Bailouts tend to be for companies on the edge of collapse.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I think you're part right. I think they'll attempt a bailout, but I don't believe Trump's appointments and the administration they're creating have the skill to plan or execute a bailout (or admit to failure enough to identify that they need one in a timely manner)

They're more likely to ram the economy full speed into rock bottom, then blame an outgroup ("the Democrats did this") and pretend nothing could have been done.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I wanna say you're wrong, because AI is absolutely not an essential service - like say a water or power company failing would be (or arguably banks). But knowing how deeply the AI tech bros have sucked up to and supported Trump I have to sigh and agree with you that they will probably be rescued from their own stupidity by the taxpayer.

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[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This is what the upcoming IMO is for. I wish I was joking

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 145 points 2 days ago (7 children)

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (6 children)

How. How does this work? They lose astronomical amounts of money. Without a prospect to ever make enough to be in plus, not even talking about paying off all the investments. How does this system work? I never understand. Same with US economy.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

sooner than later, "agentic AI" will replace the "employee cost burden". I presume they'll charge per AI agent and produce revenue at scale.

everything you see in politics nowadays is a race against the clock to create infrastructure to "deal with" the unwashed, unemployed, hungry masses. UBI is not going to win out over soylent green.

Here's the first admission I've found of what's on the way: https://fortune.com/2025/11/20/gen-z-college-grad-unemployment-could-hit-25-percent-warns-us-senator-unprecedented-disruption-ai/

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This all presumes that OpenAI can get there and further is exclusively in a position to get there.

Most experts I've seen don't see a logical connection between LLM and AGI. OpenAI has all their eggs in that basket.

To the extent LLM are useful, OpenAI arguably isn't even the best at it. Anthropic tends to make it more useful than OpenAI and now Google's is outperforming it on relatively pointless benchmarks that were the bragging point of OpenAI. They aren't the best, most useful, or cheapest. The were first, but that first mover advantage hardly matters when you get passed.

Maybe if they were demonstrating advanced robotics control, but other companies are mostly showing that whole OpenAI remains "just a chatbot", with more useful usage of their services going through third parties that tend to be LLM agnostic, and increasingly I see people select non OpenAI models as their preference.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, the stock market on the whole is about gambling. Legalized gambling that fucks over small-time investors. So ... why should long-term viability matter? The gamblers want their cash, that's what they're there for, and they don't care about bankruptcy or mass economic collapse.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, but the scale of this... We're talking billions being poured into things that are not sustainable in any possible way and every investment into it will end up down the drain.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

AI companies will try to worm their way inside governments around the world, to "enhance" them. Then they'll become "essential" cost of running said governments, being "impossible" to remove without serious disruption.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Simple, you invest in the company, wait for the stock price to grow and sell before it collapses. Everyone knows it will collapse eventually but for now there's still money to be made.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

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