this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2025
332 points (98.5% liked)

politics

26475 readers
1530 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

So, after tarrifs were declared an illegal tax and the money now needing to be refunded, I guess they'll just give it to the businesses who will have a nice boon in revenue, won't reduce the prices, and we all can just eat shit?

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 83 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My son worked with a young guy whose parents were legal immigrants, and they LOVE Trump unconditionally.

During his first term, when he sent out Covid checks, he insisted the checks have his signature on them. My son's friend's parents literally thought that Trump sent them that money out of his own bank account. They were so grateful that he was sacrificing his own fortune to save America. I would have thought that was ridiculous, but Trump knew that many people would respond that way to his signature on that check. Mine was direct deposited so I never fell for it (yeah, that's why).

So now that his approvals are plunging by the week, he is is desperate to bribe people into loving him again. I'll gladly take his money, laugh in his face, and continue to despise him as much as ever.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I'll gladly take his money, laugh in his face, and continue to despise him as much as ever.

This is the way.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

but it's our money, not his ... taxes?

[–] SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org 22 points 5 days ago

Yeah definitely more of a get my money back scenario

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If I was rich, I'd give the money to my favorite Socialist candidates, but I can always use a couple grand to remain alive.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

but I can always use a couple grand to remain alive.

That's why our wages have been so stagnant for so long.

The employers take the money they would have given you in wage increases, keep a big chunk of it for the shareholders, but use some of it to bribe politicians into keeping wages low. Do that a few times and you have a "strong" ecconomy to attract foreign investors, which will drive up your share peices even more. On top of that, there is no counter force that can afford to counter-bribe the politicians. That ultimately becomes a feedback loop, which is how and why we're in this position now.

The politicians don't work for us, they work for the donors.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It was always your money my friend. The disposition that you are "taking" something from someone, when it belongs to you in the first place is.... baffling to me.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 5 days ago

I understand, thanks for the explanation like I'm 5.

I used the word "Him" because he's making it happen, nobody else wants or is asking for this, so I referred to it rhetorically as "his" money. You shouldn't be baffled by literary license, just go with it.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe -1 points 5 days ago

“Take the money” should have been the phrase.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Every immigrant is a legal immigrant. People can't be illegal

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago

Valid. They were documented.

What does that mean though?

You sound fun...

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 73 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It was obviously Trump's idea to begin with, and the GOP haaaates the idea of giving away even twenty cents to a starving orphan so they have been grinding their teeth on this idea for a while now.

Trump is not republican. He's not anything. He's a colossal, spiteful, angry, narcissistic old man who just wants people to love him. He's been very consistent that way. He would break whatever rules and regulations there and do whatever he's told will help to get that outcome of being loved by people, it just so happens that his hatefulness aligned better with the republicans this round.

In some alternate timeline, Trump is our greatest president ever as he became a useful tool for an upstanding, socialist-majority congress and senate who use his willingness to trample tradition and regulation to pass sweeping reforms of our entire country's oppressive financial systems. Just doing whatever he's told so people can cheer his name.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 21 points 5 days ago

In the weirdest timeline, his meeting yesterday with Mamdani has turned him progressive

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 16 points 5 days ago

He may not be a Republican in ideology but his actions absolutely align with Republican policies. That's why they keep him as their puppet figurehead.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 50 points 5 days ago (3 children)

MTG announced that she's retiring from Congress.

My guess is that she sees the shitstorm coming and wants to be able to run as an "outsider" in 2028.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

MTG announced that she's retiring from Congress.

Good riddance. Hopefully now I'll be less confused when reading news about Magic: The Gathering

[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago

Took me a second.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There's a very real chance she believed all the shit she said about "the far left" being just as bad, until she pissed off the far right

Think of how they bitch and moan about peaceful protestors, and then the whiplash of pissing off the right and getting legitimate death threats.

She's still a piece of shit, but that's a hell of a wake up call.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you think her retirement has any more to do with the fact that she just passed the threshold for a congressional pension, I have several bridges on sale you're going to want to see.

Imagining that this leathery leopard has changed her spots only suggests that she is developing an effective crypsis strategy, and cloaking her predatory nature to you.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Imagining that this leathery leopard has changed her spots

You're imagining people imagining that though...

No is saying she's a better person, I explicitly said the opposite:

She’s still a piece of shit

How did you read my comment and reach the conclusion you did?

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, wasn't meant to be specific to you at all!

"If any hypothetical person thinks her retirement..." Is probably the wording I should have used.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

The word you were looking for is "anyone"

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Another classic case of Republican fuck everyone until it happens to me!!!

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

The Republican mascot should be a stick figure pulling up a ladder.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She's "retiring" 3 days after her pension kicks in.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

The more I think about it, the more it looks like she's a really smart politician who is good at playing dumb. She made herself a household name with the 'Jewish space lasers' and now she's ducking out before the AI bubble bursts. She'll write a book, go on tour, and be rested and ready in 2028.

Historical note. After Nixon lost in 1960, he tried to run for the senate. After he lost that race everyone wrote him off. Except Nixon was smart. He went out and busted his hump helping every GOP candidate he could find. By the time 1968 rolled around he had a giant following in the Party. I expect she'll be doing something similar.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The fakest fake news... Does anyone truly believe there's enough actual tariff profit that he'd deliver on this? How could anyone be so naive lol

[–] ours@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Watch the tax cuts on the super-rich,

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People to Trump..."make it ten thousand.".

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Best I can do is have you eat shit for which you should be grateful.

-Republicans led by the tRump administration, probably

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe he can sell some of his assets then. We used to get a 10k tax return every year but not since his stupid ass started messing everything up.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Or we can sell off the ~~bribes~~ gifts thay he's been getting.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What is a 10k tax return? Are you referring to a refund from overpayment?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Actually it was from deductions that he stripped from the working classes

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 days ago

He has and had no intention of issuing "tariff checks", any more than he would "DOGE dividends". It's bullshit he came up with to try to pressure the courts into not invalidating his tariffs, or to rile up the gullible and use them to threaten judges after they do so.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Hmmm a promise of $2,000 checks, where have I heard that before…

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I got one from my state (not the fed) a few years back. That's how I bought my PS5. 🤷‍♂️

[–] TrippingBalls@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bush handed them out and I used my $1500 to help fund Colombian narco trafficking

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

COCAINE!!!!!!!!!

[–] Red0ctober@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

Pretty much. Suck up as much wealth as possible.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But can we just UBI instead?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

We do UBI, but only for the rich donors.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 4 days ago

Fuck if they don't want it, give me theirs. 🤷‍♂️

[–] shane@feddit.nl 5 points 4 days ago

That's a big problem for Trump, considering it takes an act of Congress to actually send the checks.

I mean, the Constitution still meant anything maybe....

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Does this political party have ANY idea what it's doing anymore?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes. It's funneling more money from the working poor up to the party's donors. Seems to be working as intended.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 7 points 5 days ago

That was always how it was going to go down.

Screw these politicians saying we should rather pay down national dept than get 2000$. Thats bullshit! Fuck that debt! They did that shit not us! We need a piece of the action too!

Dear lord I pray Trump gives us money from DOGE savings, and tariffs, and closing pointless government agencies.