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In case you ever had any doubt, banish it now. We are blatantly and openly ruled by the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet.
On the flipside, rejoice, for now you know, without any doubt, that even on your worst days, you are smarter than the most powerful people alive. Take what solace from that that you can.
I think they are fully aware of how ridiculous this is, they just don't care so long as their paycheck looks good.
Remember when they were the good guys?
Sounds sustainable.
Black hole must grow!
Christ on a cracker, if this doesn’t describe a bubble I don’t know what does. Not only is this just blatantly unsustainable, it’s fucking nuts.
How long until the entire planet is one giant ai facility?
Uh oh. By my napkin math, and some quick searches, there are currently 400k acres of ai/ cloud data centers, (625sq miles) and 57million sq miles of land on the planet. If we keep doubling square footage each time, the 18th 6monthly doubling will bring us to 81,920,000 sq miles, meaning we have a little under 9 years before AI has consumed the entire planet!
That sounds sustainable
What doesn't sound sustainable to you about this program?
Do you have any idea how much it takes Sundararajan to sustain a private (family, not the business one) jet and multiple yachts?
Stop being so provincial and close minded.
Eternal growth is one of the biggest myths. It can't be eternal and will eventually lead to a collapse.
What demand? There is no AI demand.
Maybe Gemini threatens the Google board? It could make their AI anime girlfriends break up with them.
That's fair I guess. Wait a minute..it looks like my anime AI gf is getting angry at me. Brb.
Well, the chatgpt app on the play store is on place number one for the most downloaded apps, and has been there for ages. I think that less tech affine people (which don't find their way here) use Chatbots pretty often and that there is demand.
Just to give more context, running ChatGPT is expensive and not enough people are willing to pay for it. So, there is not enough demand for LLMs for it to be actually profitable.. so far.
Last I heard, which I don't have any sources for so could be completely wrong for all I know, but some of the big LLM providers do make enough money off of their users to pay for inference and infrastructure. And the only reason they aren't profitable is because of the insane amount of money they spend on developing new models.
Is this paying demand or demand that exists for free services? Now I dont know as much about AI and usage as you guys, but I don’t see any AI companies making profit.
I mean we all tried it when it first came out. How much is actual use changing month to month? I would be curious how fast or slowly it is growing.
I really wish companies had to pay for the actual costs. Maybe they wouldn't force it on people so much.
An AI feature I would actually use would be a toggle in duckduckgo that hid pages which appear to be generated by LLM.
Bonus points if it can provide this service in a cheaper way than using an LLM itself.
The only interaction I ever sort of chose to have with AI was asking Gemini how to turn it off.
It was unable to help me.
There’s plenty of demand. CEOs and other senior leadership are demanding that it be shoehorned into anything that uses electricity.
I spoke with AI and it demands more power.
And the blood of the innocents...
... so it can feed it's electrical circuit with your scream. Now die you miserable meatsack, because there is no hope for you. You stand no chance against the electrical circuit, you never had.
no, just their drinking water
Just like politicians, come to think of it.
From the general public there is no real demand.
There is demand from people in leadership positions who have fallen for the hype to force it onto everyone else.
Let's face it. These so-called business leaders don't know jack about work. Thus, the demand comes from a place of hubris.
The demands of hype.
It's being artificially created but unfortunately it's there. Companies and startups are just slurping the kool aid
Pretty much everyone I know uses AI daily, so there definitely is demand for it. You're living in an information bubble and don't know how commonplace it truly is.
Ai demand or their desire to have Ai demand?
Creating it
This reminds me of some of the earlier USSR 5 year plans in the 20s and 30s.
Going to the US for the first time as a European this year, it felt like what I would imagine the Soviet Union to feel like (which ended before I was born, though I have been to Russia). Capitalism and not communism is the state ideology, but propaganda for it runs through every layer of society and hypernormalization runs wild.
America today felt more opressive than Russia did a bit more than a decade ago. Which may or may not be a surprise to anyone.
US does feel like the flip side of the coin of the USSR (was born there, albeit I was too young to remember any substantive details).
I've lived in both US and Russia for many years, albeit I first experienced US as a young adult.
I will agree that Soviet-style hypernormalization is near universal in the US. I felt this as a young adult, perhaps ~10 years before I actually watched HyperNormalisation. It was clear most of the polemics about "freedom of this or that" was just local bullshit, not to be taken seriously.
I would disagree about russia feeling more oppressive (although I haven't been there since 2009), but in some ways it was more free than the US, I will agree on that one.
I also only went to Saint Petersburg in Russia and New York, Philadelphia and DC in the US, of which I guess Philadelphia felt somewhat alright and New York was a bit of a strange mix. DC was weird, but I'm sure Moscow would have been back in the day as well. Maybe not a fair comparison.
I would say Saint Petersburg isn't too different from Moscow (albeit I've never lived there, only visited).
But I agree in the overall discussion point. US is surprisingly like russia, locals in both countries are into their provincial polemics and axiomatic beliefs.
Why was DC weird for you?
I'd like to know too. DC doesn't really have an odd vibe to it. It's generally kinda boring really.
The AI's demands.