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The latest plea for official Proton support started on Reddit, where Scout339v2 shared their screenshot of Rust running "on a server with EAC disabled to show that the game already works perfectly on Linux." Disabling Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) is the key factor here, and part of a broader conversation where Facepunch and its Linux/Proton userbase don't see eye-to-eye.

While it's true Rust runs on Proton, you can't join official servers, and most unofficial servers, with EAC disabled. Facepunch considered changing its stance in 2022 when the Steam Deck launched, but didn't end up introducing official Proton support. COO Alistair McFarlane said at the time that Linux is "safer for cheat developers," and that trying to support EAC on another platform could reduce the team's ability to support Windows.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

oh noooo, what am I gonna do if I cant play the game that typically involves me being chased by heavily armed end game players, screaming racial slurs at me for no good goddamn reason other than sociopathy?

I guess I'll just have to console myself with the thousand other games that run perfectly fine because their devs arent self absorbed fuckwads.

[–] Scio@lemmy.world 2 points 11 minutes ago

Much like people who craft their games with human hands aren't really serious about AI generated art.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Ok. I'll continue to play Elden ring, assassin's creed, hollow knight silk song, and all these other great games. There are so many good games to play, I'm good to skip rust.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Skill issue

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 hours ago

The words of a man who made a game that is now irrelevant mean nothing to the ravenous Linux user.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Rust isn't serious about anti cheat though...

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

beat me to it

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I love having rootkits on my pc to play a poorly coded and Un-optimized game!

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Seems I correctly assessed that game as sketchy bullshit

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

It's been a cash-in on DayZ for what, 13 years now?

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 60 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's interesting how gamers are supposed to have a problem with people cheating in a video game, but not with their computer being compromised by bad actors.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

True and usually hackers find a workaround.

[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 49 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

If ring-0 access is the only way you can stop cheaters, your game must be poorly programmed.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, cheating is just absurdly hard to stop. Even ring 0 anti cheat doesn't stop it entirely. At some point, I feel like the answer is similar to piracy, in that you must accept that there's going to be some amount of it, and then find a way to mitigate the damage. Because there are solutions to both of them that both go too far.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I think the way that CS does it is really the best one. Prevent the simple cheats, record games and let people handle the edge cases based on reports and suspicious activity.

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

While I agree that this is usually enough, you end up with the issue that with volume the process becomes bogged down to the point of inefficiency. The best bet is to implement this system with a much more robust server side cheat detection, and ideally not send occult information or recieve bad information from the clients to minimize the damage that can be done with a cheat.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I didn't know CS did this, but yeah, at a high level, that's how I'd address it, too. It's probably not a solution that scales super well due to the manual review required, and I know that game has a reputation of people still being annoyed by cheaters, but it might be the best we can do without being very invasive, like the ring 0 stuff.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Reminds me that DRM used to run Kernel Side until software side drm was the safest/less sketchy option.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 19 points 7 hours ago

Those who don't support them are not serious about software quality.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 51 points 9 hours ago

Well, I for one am serious about anti-cheat: if the company making the game makes it more important than the game itself, I make game not important for me

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 68 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Then I have 'no plans' on ever giving them money for their shitty designed game

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 15 points 8 hours ago

Oh, this is about that shitty survival game‽ I thought it was talking about the rust language. I was so very confused.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 58 points 10 hours ago

Games that have no plans for Linux are not serious about gamers.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

Oh no, where will I go now to have 12 year olds tell me to kill myself while shouting racial slurs at my base.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 57 points 11 hours ago

This always screams of a person that thinks their views are the default views of reality. Really shows how self centered he is.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 hours ago

Thank you for your insight, Nude Bullying Simulator dev. Obviously you know about serious subjects.

[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I remember previous outbursts from facepunch. This has nothing to do with anti-cheat, they have been staunchly anti linux for some time now. They have floated the idea of removing linux support for garrys mod for years.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I bet there's some kind of kickback from Microsoft involved here. Maybe indirectly. Because the only reason I still have a Windows PC (just one left) is to play Fortnite with my kiddo. Every other PC and tablet is running Linux since October.

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 30 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Unsurprising, Facepunch were hostile in the past to the idea, temporarily played around with the idea, and always will be ambivalent. Given the direction that Windows is heading, it would be a time to consider cultivating fans on different operating systems. As Microsoft is messing up in a huge way these days.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Let me tell you, the average Rust player doesnt care and Facepunch know it.

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 6 points 10 hours ago

Without a doubt, as long as these players get their Rust fix, they couldn't care less about Linux or the state of Windows.

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago

The irony of it all is the best cheats of which I won't discuss bypass all anticheat including theirs. Their concern is only for the low hanging fruit for appearance only.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Thats fair, I dont expect every game to open up to linux. I know Kernel AC can be easily bypassed but it still filters some cheaters and raises the barrier to entry. It also gives a lot of people peace of mind.

[–] korendian@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 hours ago

Oh no! Anyway.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Can't have Rust on Linux? Just do it in C/C++!

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 7 hours ago

Let's use SDL3 + Rust and make the game Rust in The programming language Rust.
;)

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 9 points 9 hours ago

If they're so confident about that stance they should remove their games from Valve's services.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Rust is a toxic shit hole. Wasn't going to bother anyways but now I'm REALLY not going to bother with it

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I dropped about 50 hours into it trying to learn how to play. People just killed me and stole my shit the entire time. Zero helpful people.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 9 hours ago

Rust is still a thing?

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I remember there was a script(server side) that disables EAC for Linux/proton and enables it for Windows, for some reason scripting is done in C# (native language). (BTW I never played rust but learned this from a friend)