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Eugen Rochko, CEO and founder of decentralized social network Mastodon, is stepping down after nearly a decade at the helm and walking away with a sizable exit payment.

"Mastodon grew beyond any of my expectations," he said. "The past two years especially have been overwhelming, and my mental and physical health have taken a dip."

Rochko's move has, by his own admission, been a while coming. In April 2024, the establishment of a US nonprofit was announced with a governing board of directors that included Twitter co-founder Biz Stone. Rochko also announced that his ownership of the trademark and other assets were headed to the nonprofit.

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[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 3 points 3 hours ago

While a blow to the Fediverse community, Rochko's decision is understandable.

This looks more like healthy sustainable growth than "a blow" . Reducing the risk of burnout of the project lead, and transferring ownership of trademarks from an individual to a non-profit are good things for the long term

[–] StitchInTime@piefed.social 68 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I know nothing about the European software market, but translating this in American, $100,000/year for a principal developer and lead of a project of this scale is like paying him 33%-50% of a US salary for those 10 years.

I’m a firm believer that people - including open source contributors - should be compensated for their time when an avenue exists that doesn’t compromise the integrity of the project. Mastodon an amazing platform and I wish him, and the project, nothing but the best.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 25 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

us software salaries are insanely high compared to the rest of the world, because the cost of living in SV is insanely high.

with a €60k a year salary i'm in the 90th percentile of earners in my country and it took me about two years to have enough to finance my own three-bedroom apartment on one income.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Is the housing market in Sweden less crazy than other places?

It took me almost 10 years to save for my home and I had to move out of my city (Barcelona) to a small town since there was no way I could afford anything decent, even with a good Senior Software Engineer salary.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

sweden is so sparsely populated that some places have more empty houses than people. population density is about a quarter that of spain. the big cities are closer to the rest of europe, with homes going for three to four times the price of something an hour away and the rent queue being dominated by people who have been there since the 90s.

i bought a 70ish sqm apartment for about €100k two-ish hours from stockholm. in the city that would probably go for 5-20x the cost (depending on area) and have at least double the monthly cost.

[–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

That's great, good for you!
Can I ask what country?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 5 hours ago

as evidenced by the instance i'm on, sweden.

which of course also means that i did the normal stupid we do here and gave the amount before taxes. the take-home from that is more like €40k.

[–] dan@upvote.au 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

us software salaries are insanely high compared to the rest of the world, because the cost of living in SV is insanely high.

I moved from Australia to the San Francisco Bay Area. My starting income was maybe 3x what I was getting paid in Australia, but the cost of living definitely wasn't 3x higher. Major Australian cities are considered HCOL (high cost of living) areas too. Some things like electronics and food were cheaper in the USA too, at least until inflation and tariffs made everything go up.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

what about insurance and healthcare?

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The healthcare system in the US isn't great, but you do get a decent experience if you have an employer that offers good insurance. My employer pays most of the cost of my health insurance. I pay around $200/month for my wife and I, but that's pre-tax money, and the plan is great for US standards. $15 for doctor visits and $100 maximum for ER visits.

In Australia we pay a 1.5% tax to fund the public health care system, so for a $60k salary that's $900/year.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

those costs are insane, the us one because it's so high and the oz one for being so low. i think about 20% of our total tax revenue goes to care (health and elderly). for me that's something like €3500.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 37 points 16 hours ago

That Matthew Hodgson quote is good.

"Unhappy users tend to be disproportionately loud given the issues at stake, and there's a huge risk of optimizing to appease those who shout loudest in the short-term rather than find medium-term solutions which solve for everyone."

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 31 points 17 hours ago

I wish we applied the amount of scrutiny seen here to actual billionaires.

[–] dan@upvote.au 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

An important note missing from this article (but included in others) is that Jeff Atwood, the founder of Stack Overflow, donated 2.2 million Euros to Mastodon. That's likely partially where the 1 million Euro payout for the CEO came from.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 15 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I thought it was a German non-profit before? Why would anyone move it to the US? Is this some kind of hostile takeover?

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 32 points 18 hours ago

It was, and still is. It hasn't moved to the US, it just also opened a nonprofit there, so the US donations they receive from US people are tax deductible in the US. If I remember correctly they have also opened a non-profit in Belgium which is I think where they are intending to actually move their assets and do most of their work going forward as I think they've had various issues with the German organization also.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

According to https://joinmastodon.org/about :

Mastodon gGmbH is a non-profit from Germany that develops the Mastodon software.

[...]

Mastodon, Inc. is a non-profit entity in the United States that supports the growth and operational capabilities of Mastodon, including being able to receive tax-deductible U.S. donations and in-kind support.

Doesn't seem like it was a move, just a different entity. Seems like there's a bit more history to this if you want to look it up, for example the German GmbH lost its nonprofit status in 2024, strangely.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -4 points 18 hours ago

German GmbH lost its nonprofit status in 2024, strangely.

Maybe because þey were doing þings like hiving þe executive officers million-dollar payouts?