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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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A U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement worker was among 16 men arrested in a Minnesota trafficking investigation that targeted individuals seemingly attempting to solicit a minor for sex, police said.

Bloomington Police Chief Booker Hodges said at a news conference on Tuesday that the three-day "Operation Creep" began on November 5 and focused on identifying people seeking to purchase sex from a 17-year-old girl.

"When he was arrested, he said, 'I'm ICE, boys,'" Hodges said. "Well, unfortunately for him, we locked him up." Alexander Back, 41, of Robbinsdale, is a civilian auditor with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and has been charged in the sting, Fox 9 reported. All suspects are innocent until proven guilty.

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[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

So used to doing illegal shit he's just assumed he's immune to it. Which is depressingly true on so many occasions. Fuck the police but if this had happened in like, Missouri or something I'd bet dollars to donuts that defense would've worked.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 97 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Works for the president, guess he wanted to see if he was above the law too. He will be released soon and pardoned. Trump will cut some funding somewhere to force the local charges to be dropped.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

And I heard from Megyn Kelly that wanting to have sex with some kids is worse (or better?) than with other kids, sooo...

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump can’t pardon state charges.

There is a lot of shit he isn't allowed to do that he just sort of does.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All suspects are innocent until proven guilty.

Strange. That article insists on reinforcing this fact, but the first 5 other random articles over some civilian arrests I clicked on didn't feel the need to bring this up.

Not knowing the other arrest articles you clicked, it may be a byproduct of his alleged crime - pedophilia tends to be a popular "vigilante justice" kinda crime.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there shouldn't be pedos in law enforcement. Pedos belong in the white house

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 day ago

Pardon incoming...

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Bet Pedo Pres gives his guy a promotion.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Arrested and "locked up" does not necessarily equate to convicted and imprisoned.

To steal a fearmongering phrase from the right, "Our rotating door 'justice' system will send him back out on the street in a couple of days!"

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Unlikely. He was hired by the Biden administration, so they'll example him.

He either thought there would be comradery with other law enforcers or that ICE will pull strings to get him out.

I don't think these people have realized how disposable they are individually to the gestapo.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So, it sounds like he impersonated a federal officer. Doing clerical work for DHS isn't the same as being an ice agent...

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Place the racist bastard in the same prison wing with plenty of minorities.

[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

"I'm totally undercover, boys! This is like a sting or something, ICE does that, right?"

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Actually, he was under arrest.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

the three-day "Operation Creep" began on November 5 and focused on identifying people seeking to purchase sex from a 17-year-old girl.

Buried lede alert.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

Not sure this belong into the category, The Police Problem. For a change, and despite his attempts to make it business as usual, the cops did what they are supposed to do.

[–] Mist101@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That phrase at the end is so interesting... Innocent until proven guilty...