Some of these products already exist. They are expensive. If you go back and look at the long-lasting appliances of the past, they were also expensive.
One example is Speed Queen washers/dryers. Also Bosch dishwashers.
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Many of these become enshittified. Bosh is an example. My sister kitted out her kitchen with many Bosch appliances when she renovated, like 10 years ago. All have had issues.
The fridge has peeling faux chrome handles, the microwave button/wheel/control had to be replaced, the washer had the drum bearing fail, and the drum housing is sealed, so you have to replace the whole drum assembly, which costs as much as an entire budget washer...
And I will sell it in a store called "in stock" because we have these things called "computers" that can reorder a product once one sells so the shelves aren't empty. Because American companies have never heard of that concept.
The problem is that you think that would make the 'just' products cheaper. The reality is that the data and advertising subsidize the costs of the existing options and make them cheaper then what 'just' could sell for.
Case in point: Smeg already does this, and all their products are considered upmarket. They're just really solid normal appliances.
That isn’t true anymore nowadays. You pay the full un-subsidized price AND get your data sold and ads displayed
Only if there's a lack of competition in that market. For most devices, you're just flat out wrong.
Damn that $2_000 fridge must be super awesome for it to have no competition. That explains the ads on it.
No, you’re wrong. You pay more and still get shafted. I’m not saying that all products are like that, but the number of products that still show you ads and gobble your data while also becoming prohibitively expensive is ever increasing.
We’re in that nice transition phase where you can spend $200 or $3000 on a TV but your privacy is gone either way.
Noone said it would be cheaper
I'm never going to buy a fridge with a tablet embedded in it, but I don't really think they are making that much money from that. You can buy cheaper equivalent versions of appliances that don't have the ability to display ads or collect/send data anywhere.
Not for TVs you can't. And other appliances are following suit.
I've been thinking about this for a while now, how I just want a basic bitch electric car. No centre console, no futuristic screens, no sensors, no cameras. Give me a normal fucking car with dials, a speedo, some padles on the steering wheel to adjust power output to replace gears and no driver assist. Sell it to me for cheap and let me drive my car. That's all I want.
I haven't seen speedometer shortened to speedo before. I was wondering why you wanted to get a speedo (like swimwear) along with the rest of your normal car accessories.
Little from column A, little from column B
some padles on the steering wheel to adjust power output to replace gears
What? The foot pedal adjusts power. You don't need a replacement for gears.
I would very much like a manner to manually adjust how hard the regenerative coasting works, which would sort of be a replacement for gears. If I'm going down a steep hill I'd like to be able to adjust the regen to maximize energy recovery while also managing vehicle speed.
I recently bought an ebike that has peddle assist settings of 1-5. With 1 being lowest and 5 being maximum. These settings essentially act like gears setting the maximum motor power.
In crowded areas I set the speed to 1 so the bike can't exceed 15kph, on open roads I set the speed to 5 which is unlimited. I would definitely want this in a car.
Interesting. A car with peddle assist. I know that's not what you meant, but that's where my head went.
The Sims did it first, except the brand was called "Justa". Justa dishwasher. Justa fridge.
Ahead of their time.
He'll be out of business in a years time!
Seriously a great idea though. I'd buy all their stuff.
If you want this today, SpeedQueen has decent models that last forever and are very simple.
The reason is that they will be so durable that you buy one and it'll be an heirloom for multiple generations.
Since it would make small quantities (at least at the start) and with better materials, I bet it would be also more expensive so maybe it evens out.
I would also buy it, I'm tired of household items that randomly break and the manufacturer doesn't care.
Probably better than my idea of just starting to wash my clothes in a bucket
Deshittification
Id buy their stuff, some of it at least
I would buy just enough.
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