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For decades, the image of gun ownership in America was white, rural and Republican, but that's been changing, according to gun clubs, trainers, Second Amendment advocates and academic researchers.

They say more liberals, people of color and LGBTQ folks have been buying guns for years and particularly since Trump's reelection in 2024. This story was based on more than 30 interviews. David Phillips is on the training team of the Liberal Gun Club, which has chapters in more than 30 states and provides a haven for liberals to train and learn about guns. He says club membership has grown from 2,700 in November to 4,500 today. Requests for training, he says, have quintupled.

"The concern is about the supporters of the right-wing who feel that they have been given permission to run roughshod at least, if not commit outright violence against people they don't like," Phillips says.

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[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 90 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I was a range officer while in the military. If anybody in WNC need some training I would be happy to help. Training and practice is the key to firearm safety.

[–] TheLastOfHisName@piefed.social 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for offering your experience.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

It is all I have to offer. The bottom line is train like you fight. Practice with your weapon.

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Remember folks: don't just buy it, train with it.

And if you can get like minded friends to do the same even better.

Personally I'm not a fan of handguns, I prefer rifles but both are good at poking holes.

Also be sure to pick a firearm that takes a common type of round, the last thing you need to worry about is trying to find some obscure round type when you need it.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

9mm Parabellum and .556 NATO?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

9mm Parabellum

I've never heard 9mm referred to as that (had to look it up to be sure) but yeah 9mm and 5.56 NATO rounds are great choices as they're available basically anywhere here in the states. So is 30-06, 308, and 22LR.

Personally I've got guns that take 5.56, 30-06, and 22LR. The 22LR are consistently the cheapest ones to shoot and I usually buy them by the box of 500. Among my friend group the only deviation is those that have handguns, they've got guns that take 9mm and 38 special as well.

[–] dion_starfire@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please do not count on 22LR for any sort of self defense purposes. It's a great round for shooting paper targets and small critters, but against a human it has the stopping power of a letter opener. Sure, it might stop someone if you hit just the right spot, or pain might shock someone inexperienced into pausing long enough for you to run, but you don't really want to be counting on either of those in a life or death scenario.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah the 22LR is for fun for me not for defense. The 5.56 and 30-06 are quite expensive per shot by comparison so they're shot less for fun and more for making sure I'm still skilled with them.

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Both are excellent calibers. Their extreme abundance means you will always have ammo available. They also both offer very manageable recoil.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I'm a die hard anti-gun liberal & I have 100% thought about getting a gun.

[–] Bad_Engineering@fedia.io 42 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I'm a leftist and life long gun owner, I go to the range every other weekend and enjoy it greatly as a hobby. I shoot competively in both long range and pistol competitions. I also think we are in dire need of much strickter gun control here in the US. I would say a full 80% of gun owners should not be allowed to have them due to a lack of training and understanding of firearms and their use.

If you're thinking about buying a gun I would suggest first going to a range and taking a basic firearms class. I would suggest finding one of the corporate owned chains simply because your less likely to run into the wrong (far right wing) type of gun enthusiast. RangeUSA is a good option. But really any range will have classes available for first time gun owners, usually for under $100. They also offer rentals once you've familiarized yourself with safe operation and handling. For home self defence purposes I always reccomend a mid or fullsize 9mm handgun. They have relatively little recoil, are plentiful, cheap, and easy to handle.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (16 children)

I was seriously looking into a shotgun until we decided to flee the country instead

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yup, I was pretty anti gun until about 6 months ago. Now I have three (pistol, AR-15, shotgun).

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

MAGA won't back down if they don't get a bloody nose. Be it self defense or a civil war, the good guys need to be able to trade shots when the time comes.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago

It's not fear...

It's logical risk management.

And I've been saying for a while it's past the point of a handgun for personal defense. Plated vests and rifles need to be the minimum.

This ain't as bad as it can get, and there is zero reason to think shits gonna get better before it stops getting worse.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm on the left, never been anti gun but never owned a firearm till this gestapo crap started. I do not recognize the authority of ICE to question me, as a born US citizen I am not required to carry proof of citizenship. They come to my front door I'm not opening it and if they break my door down they'll have my Beretta 1301 answering. I'd rather die in a firefight and taking some scum down with me than getting disappeared to some foreign prison because I had the audacity to be born brown.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Slightly unrelated but I live in a liberal county in Texas and am somewhat removed from all this and at the beginning I thought it was the news just making stuff up but I recently visited a family member in Chicago and I shit you not ICE and the police are straight up chasing brown people. If they see a Mexican they will interrogate you on the spot and god forbid you speak Spanish. It’s absolutely insane what we are allowing as a society and if this continues we will have a US citizen killed at a protest in the not too distant future.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago (5 children)

And just like that, the GOP will be in favor of gun control.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

California's famous anti-gun policies were born out of Republican fear of the Black Panthers.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

they have to find a way to be in favor of gay oral first (trump blowing bubba and putin having the kompromat), but yes that's on the list too

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[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If anybody needs any firearm purchasing, selection or safety advice. I would love to help. Ive instructed basic firearm safety, volunteered as a range safety officer, and have read dozens of arms manuals.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

IRL events is filled with irony.

Dems are the ones that tried to implement "may-issue" gun permit laws, which delegated the power to issue gun permits to police discretion, guess what happens if a black dude tries to get a gun permit and the officer was white. See the problem? "I have a bad feeling about this guy, DENIED!"

Meanwhile, the 6 authoritarian far-right supreme court justices ironically were the ones that stuck down those shitty laws, and now it's "shall-issue" nationwide, meaning cops can no longer use their discretion or "gut feeling" to deny gun permits, if a person meets the requirements, they are required to issue a gun permit. Makes the process more fair.

Such irony, authoritarians end up making carrying arms easier.

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don’t just buy guns.

Train with the guns you buy!!!

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (12 children)

A reminder to all those who want to buy a gun for protection, get training and not just shooting at paper.

I can tell you that even just being a hunter, you're reaction to a situation that will involve potentially taking a life, you're not going to react the way you think you will when adrenaline is pumping through you.

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 12 points 3 days ago

They shouldn't be buying them out of fear... It should be out of the drive for the protection of genuine humanity.

If it's about fear then America has no hope.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

The Pink Pistols is an LGBTQ gun rights organization in the United States and Canada. Their motto is "Pick on someone your own caliber".[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_Shooting_Sports_of_Utah

Stonewall Shooting Sports of Utah is a group of gun rights advocates in Utah. It supports the Pink Pistols' idea that was described nationally in 2000 by writer Jonathan Rauch for the legal, responsible and safe use of weapons for their self defense, recreation and shooting sports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Rifle_Association

The Socialist Rifle Association (SRA) is a socialist gun rights advocacy group based in the United States, which is dedicated to "providing working class people the information they need to be effectively armed for self and community defense."[5][6][self-published source] The group advocates for Second Amendment gun rights from a left-wing perspective.[7]

https://blog.socialistra.org/official-statement-on-recent-doj-discussions/

Official Statement on Recent DOJ Discussions

The Socialist Rifle Association opposes in the strongest terms the stripping away of gun rights for our trans comrades. Trump's DOJ is far beyond the pale having floated the idea.

It's also worth noting that the major gun rights groups, which tend to be on the right side of the spectrum, also condemned the Trump administration for suggesting that trans people should be disarmed:

https://www.newsweek.com/gun-rights-group-condemn-trump-transgender-firearm-proposal-2125307

The National Rifle Association insists the Second Amendment "isn't up for debate" as senior Justice Department officials have reportedly held internal deliberations about issuing regulations restricting transgender individuals from possessing guns in the wake of a shooting at a Catholic school in Minnesota that left two children dead and 17 others injured on August 27.

The Second Amendment Foundation, a Washington state-based gun rights advocacy nonprofit group, also blasted the Department of Justice's reported consideration of new firearm restrictions, saying it "stands resoundingly in opposition" of any such policies.

Gun Owners of America, a Virginia-based nonprofit with more than two million members and supporters, also denounced the Trump's administration reported plans.

"Gun Owners of America does not compromise with our support for the right of all the People to keep and bear arms," GOA senior vice president Erich Pratt told Newsweek in a statement. "That means we oppose any and all gun bans — whether proposed by Republicans or Democrats. Anti-gunners would happily label every gun owner 'crazy' in order to confiscate our firearms and infringe on our rights. We're not going to give up an inch."

The National Association for Gun Rights, meanwhile, noted that only a Title III court can adjudicate someone as "mentally defective" for purposes of firearm restriction.

"It is a judicial branch function, not an executive branch function," NAGR president Dudley Brown told Newsweek in a statement. "This process — and only this process — is available today as it may apply to transgenders or to any American suffering from mental health issues, but taking rights away from any American without due process is an affront to the Constitution. All ex parte gun bans are unconstitutional."

[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Good thing it is their right to keep and bear arms!

It isn't a political party issue, it's about defending rights when no one else can or will do it for you.

Gun rights are trans rights. They're gay rights. They're little old lady rights. They're white rights, black rights, legal immigrant rights. They're rights for weaklings, and rights for the strong.

That's the thing about rights - we are all entitled to them!

Now go get yourself some instruction about safety, and time at the range, and don't be stupid with your tools for death ☠️

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

I'm surprised they hadn't armed before this

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 days ago

The world is like a ride in an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time and they begin to question: "Is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say: "Hey, don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." ... and we kill those people.

Ha ha, "Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride. Shut him up. Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and my family. This just has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as ONE.

Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year, and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.

-- Bill Hicks.

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Every "liberal" and "independent" should have at least one to carry in public and bigger one to defend your home and family with.

Don't be the victim of a deranged, unhinged, Trump supporter and/or masked men at your door trying to kill you and your golden retriever only for the "liberal MSM" to whitewash and it relegate it to the back page by noon.

[–] centipede_powder@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

It is good that people finally understand why its important to be able to have these. That said make sure if you buy on to train with it. A weapon you hold but cannot use belongs to your enemy.

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

I mean thats statistically irrelevant, but guns and lgbt is cool.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago

Sucks it's out of fear, but John Brown would be proud nonetheless.

[–] RedTie13@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I always advocate training and joining like minded gun clubs to help you train and gather around a community. Organizations like Liberal Gun Club and Socialist Rifle Association seem like good places to start.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

There's going to be some news.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 days ago

We're rightfully scared of right wingers

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