is really good. You just need to cut away <roughly 75% of it>.
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Ain’t that the truth. There used to be a shortened version of Naruto on utube that was like a third the length of the full versions, with out lose of any content.
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I play FFXIV, it's unironicslly true.
However: The game is decently fun before the story kicks in
and the devs for sure need to trim the story a lot more specially the earlier levels.
in addition to that the early content is becoming very stale and needs a rework
I'm not kidding when I say the 4th expansion is some of the best story telling in video game history, the music and production is beyond anything I've ever experienced and I look back very fondly to that expansion
So for someone who has never played, and doesn't have a clue about the game, is it worth diving into? Do I need to do anything special to avoid spoilers, or will the game take me through the story from the original game through the expansions without deviation?
I’d say it is, because while it’s a slow burn the buildup leads to some pretty epic payoffs.
And the game will not only take you through each story in sequence so you don’t have to worry about spoilers, it will lock you out of progressing class quests (if they have spoilers, and the later ones often have at least a few) until you’ve played the relevant story parts. So it’s extra-anti-spoiler.
the free trial has infinite time and some minor restrictions so imo you should try it
i didn't know what to expect and only played guikdwars 1 and some 2 and very little WOW and ff14 won me over
it's a very charming game with lots of character and you can tell it was made with love
I only pitch it to people who already play MMOs. It's a massive time sink, and very heavy with cutscenes. Sometimes the story gets really slow (like basically doing chores for people to convince them to help you save the world) but at other times it's absolutely incredible. I agree that the 4th xpac is some of the best writing ever.
As for spoilers in the game, you should be pretty safe. The game itself will take you through the story linearly and the community is generally very respectful.
You can play the base game and I think the first expansion up to level 60 for free. Be aware that it is an MMO, and they've kept most of the content that they've added in the game, so it's pretty daunting starting out.
Very definitely worth it. And it's free so if you don't like it, not like you're wasting anything. Have something like 10k hours in it. I don't play it much anymore other than to check in and/or dick around with friends since I've done most of what I wanted. There's no FOMO or anything like that. It's very much built as an RPG, just online (though with the recent updates you can play the entire thing single player if you so wish). So you can just take your leave of it once you've done the content you want and come back later without missing anything. Very worth it.
Unironiconally one of my favorite FF stories, third to 9 and 10. And that probably has to do with them taking the time to build up a backstory and lore. So it's not off to the racetracks minute one, big deal. Do you expect that when you read a book? Makes you care more about the people later on since they've been established as actual people and not just Spiky Hair Video Game Guy #1 and Woman Who Should Be Cold In Those Clothes #8
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Warframe players fr (I have over 3,000 hours)
I think the main reason The Second Dream hit so hard was because the game was so flat and plotless up until that point. Like, it's a great story and all, but the "twist" would have been guessed within moments of starting it if players expected there to be any plot beyond the scraps of lore they'd been given thus far.
Though kudos to the devs for making that flatness part of the plot, as you're basically just a machine going through the motions until you "awaken". Still sucks from a gameplay perspective, of course.
I still count The Second Dream among the best gaming experiences I've ever had. I agree with you that the only reason it worked is because the game was so plotless until that point, but it's not like the game wasn't fun until then - it was just fun for reasons other than story. If the moment to moment gameplay hadn't been engaging, having the big reveal be tens or hundreds of hours into the experience wouldn't have worked at all.
The game Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons is another example of this sort of thing... There's a moment near the end that hits really hard, and I feel like the whole design discussion for the game focused on that moment and the rest of the game was just a vessel to get the player to the point where it would hit hardest, and it does a great job of that. It's only a 4 hour experience, though, not a 40+ hour one.
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One Piece has a 25-episode fight at one point. Here's a short list of anime shorter or the same length as this one fight:
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The first season of FLCL (6 Episodes)
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Hellsing (13 Episodes or 10 double-feature Ultimate episodes)
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No Game No Life (12 Episodes)
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Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo (24 Episodes)
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The first season of Re:Zero (14-22 Episodes depending on cut)
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Devilman: Crybaby (10 Episodes)
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Puella Magi Madoka Magica (12 Episodes)
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Bokurano (24 Episodes)
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Berserk (25 Episodes for the OLM show, 13 Episodes for Studio 4°C, 24 Episodes for 2016)
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Kill la Kill (24 Episodes)
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Ergo Proxy (23 Episodes)
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The first season of Psycho-Pass (22 Episodes)
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The first season of Assassination Classroom (22 Episodes)
This is my biggest issue with One Piece, or any form of extended media like this. It's not that I won't like it, but how much unique media am I giving up to watch it? It's the same vibe I got when I was really into an MMO. Love the game, one of my favorites of all time even. But I'm much happier broadening my horizons and playing a unique experience every month or so opposed to the same game for a year straight.
One Piece is best enjoyed as a manga. Reading it goes much faster and loses a bit of the anime character tropes.
I never watched one Piece but there's no way you need over a thousand episodes for whatever story they are trying to tell. I can't wrap my head around that.
It's cause they're turning 16 page chapters of manga into full episodes. If you made a succinct version, you could probably tell the whole story so far in 200 episodes. Much smaller than that and you'd really start cutting into the story being told.
Wasn't there a project aiming to recreate the anime but without any filler?
One Pace, yes. It's the only way I've consumed the anime. It's good but occasionally the site goes down. Also it is not up to date with the current stuff because it can't be, it's all volunteer.
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After a while you need to stop caring about the overall plot (which is pretty interesting on its own, but that is like drip fed to you) and start enjoying the arcs individually. Usually the structure is that they get to a new island, get to know the inhabitants and their culture and individual characters, the crew finds a mystery, problem or conspiracy, and they help the inhabitants. Quite often there are also multi-island plots that tie up all the plots of each individual island.
Admittedly the solution is always inevitably "Luffy punches the bad guy really hard in the face" while the rest of the characters are usually busy punching the bad guy's underlings, but since you end up liking both the main characters and the characters they meet in each island (and the relatively rare but much beloved recurring characters), you don't mind it as much.
And then turns to garbage at the 400 hour mark. Dawntrail actually made me quit due to some of the worst writing I have ever had the misfortune of experiencing in a game. Serious whiplash coming off the fourth expansion.
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To be fair about One Piece, there's so little unique content in each episode, sandwiched between a lengthy theme song and recap, and next episode preview, that 37 episodes is more like 15 episodes.
And I love all of it.
Honestly pacing is the anime's biggest weakness. The show simply has dogwater pacing to help it maintain a consistent run since 1999. One Pace, which cuts roughly half of the total run time is a godsend if you ever want to watch the show
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When I was new to anime I watched Naruto. Made it about 150 eps before everything felt like it was repeating itself, and that was the last "endless" anime I ever watched.
Still maintain that an anime over about 100 eps can't be good--maybe ok, maybe amusing enough that you'll watch it, but not good good. There's simply no way to sustain a decent story for that long.
I think I got to the low hundred mark on naruto. Then someone told me everything after the
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death of the old dude and kidnapping of super serious emo kid
wasn't worth watching, because the naruto shipuden basically picked up there anyway. I suppose I'll get around to shipuden someday and find out.
In my opinion, base FFXIV A Realm Reborn is already a good game. The first expansion, Heavensward, takes it to great. Stormblood goes back to good. Shadowbringers and Endwalker together are the best Final Fantasy I've played, though other people don't like Endwalker as much as me. I haven't played Dawntrail since Endwalker is a clear endpoint for the story.
I cried throughout the entire game, but a sequence in the last region of Endwalker made me ugly cry like no other media has
Dawntrail has its issues but it's definitely hard to get something off the ground after a conclusion like EW. I think it was alright, not too strong on the story department and they wasted some characters imo but the content was really good.
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I got bored after 8 episodes.
I thought it was so cool since protestors in Nepal used the pirate flag thing in the Gen Z protests, so I was like: did I miss out on a great Anime?
Nope, boooring. (no offense to the fans, but it just aint for me)
But the opening was cool tho...
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As a manga reader, read one piece, it's great starting from volume 1. But I can't watch the anime, it's too slow. I don't like most anime though.
Edit: not really a fan of TV in general I guess
Meh, it's okay
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Source: I wasted time reading all of it, and now I'm stuck waiting for it to end already
No such thing as a sunk cost, move onto something more enjoyable if you can.
After reading basically all of the comments here, I'm gonna dissent and say that the first 300eps of one piece are great and I disagree with people saying they aren't. The show is not a speedrun. I loved the openings and endings. Skip the recap when it grates on you because over time it gets longer and longer; I remember some episodes having like 6 minutes of recap, which is absolutely unacceptable, regardless of how complex the war-like battles with multiple factions are.
I was greatly saddened by the decision to get rid of outros, and the double length into drags. The show can admittedly be slow in a lot of places, but nowhere near as egregious as a lot of people make it out to be. I LIKE shows that take it easy and have world building and vibe building.
If One Pace does it for you, though, all the power to you. That's a great project.
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It does get good at the climax of the base game, A Realm Reborn, when Rauban loses control. That's what hooked me. There are other great moments and plots along the way through the whole game . But for the overall best time, it's the 3rd expansion, Shadow Bringers, that's a masterpiece all the way through. That's some of the best Final Fantasy I've ever played from Squaresoft or SquareEnix.
Dawntrail, I can't recommend. I can't get into it.
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Idk about everyone else but One Piece is literally our comfort show (watched all all of it- we think 6 times by now) and we’re rewatching again atm via the One Pace edit and even started reading the manga aswell (in Spanish as we’re learning Spanish rn).
So far in One Pace a lot of small details are removed which we personally dislike, but the overall concessions and it being a faster pace edit it’s pretty good ngl. If your looking for a good run through of the anime, the One Pace gets the job done.
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ARR has huge pacing issues and a lot of stuff that just isn't that great. However, it's basically essential for the later on stuff and can't really be trimmed down that well without losing a lot of stuff. It does get good though :/
Depends on the individual. I found the game to be deeply moving even in the earliest stages. Though the Limsa and Ul'dah night themes could make passing a tapeworm into a bucket feel moving.
"It gets good at season 2"
"Then let's start there."
"But then you won't know what's going on"
"If it's good then I won't have to"
This has genuinely happened to me
dude episode 37? try episode 130+ lmao one piece is so slow and boring until a little past the alabasta arc.
Nah it gets good at Arlong Park
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One piece the manga is great through and through
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