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[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 97 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

My mind added this to the end automatically.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

"Let's be realistic!"

Nothing new under the sun

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 91 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like contextual ads, where you serve ads based on the surrounding content instead of who the individual user is would be about as effective and tremendously less expensive, complicated, and invasive.

Run football ads on football websites. Run music ads on music websites. That's how it works in TV, radio, and so on and has for years.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I remember this being the norm 15-20 years ago.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Yes. Those are the ones that made web ads revolutionary and replaced all of the ad industry. Those are the ones that gave all the clear results.

And targeted ads have been highly related to fraud since the beginning.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Web 1.0, booo!!!

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But that would mean that some of the richest companies and arguably the biggest business on the planet would become obsolete!

Actually scratch that, it looks like AI saved the day for them.

I hope my darkest cynicism on this topic comes across, if not: ///sssss

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

There is actually an argument that advertisers like Google are abusing micro targeting to extract advertising revenue from clients while, at least in some cases, delivering few actual new customers.

Here's the process.

  1. Google sees that your profile (browsing habits, demographics, search patterns, etc) suggest you are interested in product A.
  2. Google blasts you with advertisements for product A, essentially marking your browser session and claiming you as a recipient of their advertising. Ever look at a particular product and find you are being advertised for that product incessantly for a while?
  3. If you happen to buy product A around the time that your session was shown an advertisement for that product, Google claims you as a conversion and gets paid for convincing you to buy the product. Advertising works!

So if Google's algorithm thinks you are already going to buy product A, they show you an ad for product A constantly because it means they'll claim you as an advertising success and get paid extra.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ever look at a particular product and find you are being advertised for that product incessantly for a while?

No, I use uBlock origin and I only see online ads when I'm forced to look at someone else's computer.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I literally had bets on whether or not someone would respond exactly as you did, bragging about never seeing ads because of ad blocking.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Extra jack session today, the literal bet was clearly with themself.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The left hand won this round.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It is like encouragement for the thing you were already likely to do, which is the goal of targeted advertising.

Now if you purchased something, then got the ads afterwards and they counted it retroactively then they would be abusing it. I'm 99% sure they do that.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It is like encouragement for the thing you were already likely to do, which is the goal of targeted advertising.

It's the claim of targeted advertising. The person I saw talking about this actually ran the numbers, comparing two very similar geographic markets. In market A they paid for advertising, but in B they did not.

When comparing market A to market B, market A had a marginal increase in sales for the advertised product vs. market B. However, they were charged for orders of magnitude more conversions than the actual increase in sales.

The idea is that when compared to something like actual click-through purchases, where a user literally clicks on an ad and then buys a product, it's extremely deceptive.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Now if you purchased something, then got the ads afterwards and they counted it retroactively then they would be abusing it. I'm 99% sure they do that.

That explains everything!

No doubt their ads are monthly/quarterly purchases. So Google reports the end of month "conversions" when in reality it's ads shown during the month but happened after the sale.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

Me: "I am going to the grocery store."

Google: "Groceries, go go go!"

Me: "I've bought groceries."

Google: "Another win!"

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Why... isn't he thrown out of a high building window in the last panel? I'm a bit disappointed now.
(OMG I sound almost like a Russian dictator).

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago

Without violence and therefore for cowards

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This was a 2021 comic, which I think was the time when companies had to comply with GDPR regulations. Cookies didn't go away, but companies had to explicitly ask the user for consent to use them [or atleast can't hide that they were using cookies]; usually in form of popups.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

ah, so that's why we get these notifications on every single website now ?

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, and you can use Consent-0-Matic to fill then out automatically (and reject cookies). Works on at least most of the annoying ones

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

I could kiss you right now.

I mean. I won't. You never consented to that. But if you're ever in Cleveland, and you wanna be kissed, well.....you know where to find me.

Actually you don't.

Ah, well, perhaps it wasn't meant to be. But hey! You listen to me right now! Keep on being you, and knowing things! The world needs more people who know usefull things! Thats how others learn.

And somewhere as a society, we've lost sight of that, by large. We've become distant as a people. We've lost the art of conversation! Gone are the days of people from opposite ends of the fence seeing each other as friends. Everybody is your enemy now, and everybody is divided. But why? Why now?

Money. Follow the money. If we're all fighting with each other, we can't fight with the rich. And who designed it that way? Certainly not the poor, or the middle class. We don't have trickle down ecconomics. We have gushing upwards ecconomics.

Like.....shits bad. This has to be late stage capitolism. The whole system is on brink of collapse. The rich can't take our money if we have no money. Which means they have no money. Nobody has money anymore, and we face a 1930s style great depression.

Actually, I was reading about the great depression. It didn't sound all that different from my life right now. And do you know what happened right after the great depression? We kicked the nazis asses!

So if there's one silver lining to how much shit the world is going through right now, it's this. There is a very non-zero chance I'll get to kick some nazi ass! Because god damn, are there a lot of them these days!

I'm generally pretty against murder. But killing a nazi? Well that seems more morally correct than NOT killing a nazi. So maybe I have that to look forward to. Yeah!

What was I talking about? Oh, right, yes. Thank you for the cookie tip. It's going to make my PC internet back to it's authentic self.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yea I am using it ! But it works with only a subset of websites

thanks for the recommendation in any case

[–] 5A7A@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've had better results with enabling the cookie-notice blocklist in ublock origin

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 3 points 1 week ago

Didn't know about that.... will check it out thanks

[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You might want to try Ghostery. It’s similar to ublock (probably I’ve never used ublock).

It auto-denies all possible cookies, randomizes your location and fingerprinting information, and blocks ads and stuff (good for if you use pihole but need to use a public VPN for something, or mobile browsing or whatever)

I’ve never found a site it didn’t work with, tho it’s possible, I’m sure. It’s also one of the only extensions available for iOS browsers that does all the things, at least that I’ve been able to find.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Prefer Privacy Badger over Ghostery. It's been a while but my understanding is Ghostery sells some data about your data blocking habits. I switched like 8 years ago so I don't remember the details. It's made by the EFF which is a very good organization.

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[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is also I still don't care about cookies.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago
[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I think he refers to the browser extension of the same name.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 1 week ago

ok will look it up cheers

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

~~Of the same type. :-)~~

Edit: I thought you mean of the same as Consent-O-Matic, not what you actually meant.

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[–] mapu@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago

Let's be realistic. This will not stop under capitalism. Any company that doesn't exploit their users and employees for the most amount of profit will get outcompeted and driven out of the market by a different company that does.

[–] florge@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago

Took me a while to realise they weren't selling cookies, but instead meant internet cookies.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

No, no, we just add AI to the browsers, we don't need cookies when we're going.

[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah Alan, be realistic. We are too addicted to sniffing up consumer data to just give up. Even if internet ads, targeted or otherwise, are not really liked by anyone.

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He wasn't realistic. In the end they're trying to sell an undercooked product or service, preferably full of subscriptions, and these days likely AI slop held together with duct tape, so they don't have much choice but tricking customers into handing over money.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

"But now we have so many other ways of tracking people on the www, we can finally give in on this one specific, somewhat outdated thing called cookies, we really don't need it anymore."

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why is there a random person off screen yelling "Tom Fish Burne" in the last panel? 🤔

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Reject all is an instant click.

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