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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I should register as a Republican so the Democrats start to care what I think

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How does that work though? At least voting in the Democrat primaries, candidates with sane policies and values can potentially end up the ones on the general ballot. I don't see that happening in the Republican primaries. And regardless of your registration status regressive Democrat politicians aren't going to be trying to appeal to you if you have sane political values. Maybe my bad for taking a joke too seriously but doesn't seem like a rational approach.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 25 points 1 week ago

How does that work though?

It's a joke about how Democrats campaign to try and change Republican voters toward their side while ignoring people who already vote Democrat.

They do be doing that a lot.

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[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No you (and everyone else) should be voting in primaries more. Everyone ignores voting except for once every four years. Then we have the problem that no one wants to run or can run. I have been asked repeatedly but dont have the resources to walk away from employment into public service. How many others are like this. This is a problem of our own making.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Like I haven’t been voting in primaries and every local election since the year 2000…

Maybe I’m sick of waiting for everyone else to do their goddamn part.

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[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago

You said the problem yourself: Only the rich can run for office. The problem isn't "our own making". The problem is the system.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A solution? FUCK THAT I WANNA BE MAD!

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 41 points 1 week ago

Followup with republicans: Oh... ok so the only compromise you are offering is we eat shit, we give you everything you asked for? OK pass me the spoon. Oh... right sorry sir you didn't offer a spoon, we'll just use our hands, sorry to inconvenience you.

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (15 children)

That’s why a two party system is stupid. Democrats are not trying to be “good”, just the lesser evil.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

There is no government that is not the "lesser evil". That is why it exists in the first place.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Guy in California in a bright blue district with a landslide turnout: "Well, I'm feeling disappointed with the party. I'm going to vote Green instead."

Guy's Grandmother in a Purple State swing district who voted for Trump in 2016 because she didn't like Hillary: "You fucking idiot! You've fallen for Putin's propaganda! You're going to cost us the election!"

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Labour have been trying this in the UK. Now green support is increasing significantly.

[–] taygaloocat@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago

Americans don't have a Greens party, they have the Fascists or the Status Quo party. Personally I just wouldn't vote if I lived in that shithole, but I guess that's what people think and look at where they are now.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They see politics as being a scale from left to right, 1 to 100. Individuals may have any value in that scale and they'll vote for whoever has a closer value. So if Republicans are 80, Dems move up to 79 so that they'll be the closest to anything left of 80. If Republicans go up to 100, Dems go up to 99 and then 99% of people will vote Dem as even someone with a value of 1 will see them as the closest party. It's an incredible and flawless plan. Who cares about the actual politics so long as you win, right?

Now if there were a third party, then suddenly going as close to Republicans as possible is no longer a good strategy because the third party can just do the same with them - so they have to find a new balance in that scale. Add even more parties and then each one would have to find its own thing to fight for or they would get absolutely no votes.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

We have third and fourth and more parties. Its not the number of parties that matter. Its the system by which they are given power.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

It is important to note that that model does not match reality. If it was true, we would see centrists winning every election. Instead when the dems run a republican-lite, the moderate republicans vote for the real thing, the dem base vote in lower numbers because they don't like republican policy and feel betrayed, and the politically confused people in the middle vote republican because the dems are basically admitting they agree with the core ideas of republican policy.

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Our agency as a collective relies on voting. Nullifying or invalidating the worth of the democratic party is antithetical to the means of the many. It's obvious which party wants for collectivism.

I know it's disheartening to believe in Democrats because they're also harvesting money from private interests (or making big money in the stock exchange with prior knowledge of events to unfold), but Republican sentiment is now, "burn everything to the ground", which doesn't sound bad until you realize that the new government will be the same old white guys that abused us before, but WAY more powerful.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Not if we kill all those old white guys when the government isn't around.

These people CANNOT be allowed to get near to power again. The best way to ensure that is if they are fucking dead.

These ghouls are raping and devouring all of our futures. The futures of your children. There is no compromise with such people.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

It's obvious which party wants for collectivism.

No it is not. It appears that the Democrats are failing at this on purpose, as controlled opposition. Their leader in the senate is Chuck Schumer.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

I would really, really hope that the message people take from this is not "burn everything to the ground" of the republicans, but 'burn everything to the ground that involves the current democratic leadership and replace it with people not beholden to the corporations.'

A much more difficult task, but a worthy one.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

real answer is to support/organize with your local DSA, they're the only actual progressives in the room who know what they're doing. silently take over local/state-level democratic seats until you have a majority necessary to vote out all of the corrupt establishment democrats, yoinking the party's coin-purse in the process.

the system is designed so 3rd partys cant win any relevant amount of power, you have to take over dem's from the inside...that's what MAGA did with the GOP

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Now we're talking. I don't want to be an apologist for anyone involved in corruption, but I don't want to people to fall into inaction by believing that both parties are the same. We've got to be active.

[–] whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mamdani, you have such potential. Please don't fuck it up.

[–] taygaloocat@leminal.space 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He literally can't do anything. He talks a big game but the system was long rigged to prevent progress decades before he got into power.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There are some circumstances that are in his favor, specifically in New York. There are enough people in NYC who are willing to give progressives a try that it may actually put pressure on the Governor, who is up for reelection next year. There is a progressive candidate running against the current Governor so there is a significant incentive to shore up her support on the left and for her to play ball with Mamdani.

We'll have to see. There are a lot of powers looking to stop him and demonstrate the futility of trying to accomplish anything progressive. If he fails I fear it will utterly demoralize progressives, but in a rare moment at least the electoral system is in his favor for the next 12 months.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Needs text alternative.Images of text break much that text alternatives do not. Losses due to image of text lacking alternative such as link:

  • usability
    • we can't quote the text without pointless bullshit like retyping it or OCR
    • text search is unavailable
    • the system can't
      • reflow text to varied screen sizes
      • vary presentation (size, contrast)
      • vary modality (audio, braille)
  • accessibility
    • some users can't read this due to lack of alt text
    • users can't adapt the text for dyslexia or vision impairments
    • systems can't read the text to them or send it to braille devices
  • web connectivity
    • we have to do failure-prone bullshit to find the original source
    • we can't explore wider context of the original message
  • authenticity: we don't know the image hasn't been tampered
  • searchability: the "text" isn't indexable by search engine in a meaningful way
  • fault tolerance: no text fallback if image breaks.

Contrary to age & humble appearance, text is an advanced technology that provides all these capabilities absent from images.

Is this another "I don't understand the spoiler effect & primaries" post?

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Well, Republicans can vote, well, Republican, while leftist don't have a viable alternative to voting Democrat. This has turned the Democrats into Repulican light. And nobody wants that.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If Democrats were a majority party, none of this would be happening, so definitely not bOtH SIdEs on this one.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Republicans at the voting booth: I would like to vote for the candidate that assured my biases the most, now who was that one guy that Fox News showed me yesterday...
Meanwhile the left on social media: Your strategy of voting pales in comparison with my strategy of ranting on social media, you imbecile, you rube. Now, why don't Democrats don't listen to me!

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