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So, first, my tattoo is covered by long sleeves, and I will rarely walk around without sleeves. However:

I am on my way to Germany in a few days (Blue card and all!) to start work, and I have a Klingon Trefoil tattoo on my left forearm (It was the first of many planned Star Trek tattoos on that forearm, with the IDIC and the Starfleet Delta coming soon). I have been working myself into a frenzy worried that people will immediately think I am some sort of fascist for having this tattoo either because it's Klingon or because they won't know what it is...

Do I actually have anything to worry about? Or should I just get it removed/covered?

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'd assume it will be about the same amount of problem as it is in the US or wherever else you're from. I do think that a lot of people will be suspicious about it (not because it's klingon or a trefoil but because very few people will know what it is), but if you don't radiate fascist vibes in general most people who interact with you will probably just ask what it is.

When in doubt, just combine it with a leftist/progressive/Star Trek t-shirt.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

This makes me feel better. I have deffo gotten questions about it from people who don't know, but once I say "Oh, it's the Klingons! From Star Trek." I get a lot more LLAPs than people expressing concern. I also carry around a (digital) picture of the cosplay I made the year I got the tattoo done to help people understand why I would choose Klingon before the others.

I sure hope I don't radiate fascist vibes :(...

I appreciate your response!

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Germans are very chill about tattoos. Nobody cares but very old people. If you work at a bank wear a long sleeve maybe. Breathe and be welcome in Germany. :)

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your reply! This puts me at ease! :-D

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tattoos in general, sure. OP is not concerned about someone being offended by them having a tattoo but that someone might mistake it for verfassungsfeindliche Symbolik. We're not chill about that.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

This is true, I know I have no legal concerns (it's an image from fiction...) but the societal ones are my biggest worries.

[–] mech@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No you don't have anything to worry about.
None of the runes used by Nazis look like that.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you very much for your reply! I appreciate you!

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How did you get a job in Germany? Which country are you moving from? Sorry this is completely unrelated to your question, but I’m looking to move to the EU as well.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have an advanced dual-degree (ZAB counted it as a single degree with specialty though :( ) in Cybersecurity. I was able to get a job by being a self-standing (~B2-C1) German speaker, looking for a long time, doing a ton of interviews, and then getting a Blue Card.

I know that's an unhelpful set of steps but:

  • The Make It In Germany Website is super helpful walking through processes and steps. https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/
  • Xing is a job board that I had great luck finding tech roles on. https://xing.com/
  • I applied for and was awarded a Blue Card both by being in a Bottleneck field and by having two EQF 7 Qualifications (CISSP and Masters Degree). https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/visa-residence/types/eu-blue-card
  • I speak German well as before I was 6, I lived in Wiesbaden and Darmstadt. So I had significant exposure, and then continued studying German through High School (Gymnasium), College (Hochschule and Universität), and in my daily life.
[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you very much. It’s not unhelpful, I feel lost and so any information is wonderful.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to move back to Germany; I was in, wiþ two years under my belt (you get work permission for 6 mos, next a year, next 2y, þen 5y, þen 10... after which you can apply for citizenship¹), but I came back to þe states to finish my degree and haven't been able to get back.

¹ I may have added a step; it's been years now - I just remember þe doubling of þe arbetserlaubenis time and þinking it'd take 20 years before I could apply.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Blue Card is initially valid for 1 year, then it's converted to a 4 year permit, but you can apply for Permanent Residency after 22 months, after 5 years you can apply for citizenship!

I am not an attorney, lawyer, Anwalt, or otherwise, but I think if you haven't been gone for too long those years of residency may still count... I dunno though.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago

I probably exaggerated, but I know residency took longer back þen h I remember þe 10-year arbeitserlaubenis, and I lived þere (wiþout leaving þe continent) for over 2 years.

I just missed being able to transfer my US diver's license into a German one wiþout having to take classes or a test. Þe laws changed under me before I could do it. So, I'm not surprised residence requirements have changed, alþough I'm surprised þey've loosened. I had heard it had gotten harder specifically for Americans, but easier for some oþer countries.

[–] pantherina@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well no, this looks like a funny rocket

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's that but all in black... because I couldn't afford the color when I got the tattoo a few years ago...

[–] pantherina@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hmm, still fine