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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

George Carlin said it, and it's true. Rights don't exist. We've gotten to the level where things that used to seem protected are now violated, and pointing to the laws that say they are rights doesn't do anything. Once checks and balances disappeared, the ones in control could do whatever they want, especially when everyone else is still trying to use the rules that aren't being acknowledged or enforced to "fight" back.

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup its almost word for word of his bit

I read it thinking,"Does this guy really think he's the only one who watched Carlin and is now trying to pass it off as his own idea?"

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

a lot of the countries that signed up to this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights#Adoption

have made it almost impossible to take those rights away

pretty good huh? lets continue enforcing these rights, right?

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[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

This take isn't even controversial, it's just true. Same with the privileges temporarily given by the supreme court, same when they called people "essential workers" when they meant "expendable human capital".

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago
[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't have a "good" president, only "less evil".

They don't mind if the "less" turns right every day, and it's so bad they'll accept someone who'll bomb and invade some other country again if they could go back to how things were, which is getting away with abhorent shit abroad and claiming to be the 'greatest country' ever.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Anyone who wants to be made president should on no account be allowed to do the job

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A call for human rights that can't be taken away by the first idiot is not anarchism, it's the most basic common sense and logic upon which a good society should be built.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

And if we want to have actual rights, then we must build a system in which no one has the power to take them away to begin with.

So, they had me up till here. But what I think they're trying to describe is a dual-power relationship between the state and labor, by which the powers of the state are checked by the power of working people. That's an idealistic vision of the future, but it isn't a proven strategy. Just the opposite - its a strategy riddled with more failures than successes.

A call for human rights that can’t be taken away by the first idiot is not anarchism

The belief that we can build a system to self-perpetuate civil rights is at the heart of the anarchist ideology.

But the promise of an immaculate statutory framework that denies any individual or coalition power is a false one. Power is a consequence of social relationships and control of physical capital by individuals. There is no established structure that can prevent a cartel of insiders from seizing control of critical infrastructure. They don't even have to be particularly powerful. Any sufficiently motivated Houthi brigade can shut down the Suez Canal. Any sufficiently popular social media platform can derail a positive social movement (witness what happened to Occupy Wall Street or BLM or the Hong Kong Democracy protests or the disintegration of the Yugoslavian government).

Civil Rights can only ever be aspirational in a world where a local monopoly on violence undoes in days what a community spent generations building.

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Anarchism is kind of basic common sense.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anything that relies upon the labor of another person is a privilege that can be revoked at their whim.

Nuh uh! Not if they're your slave! Then you can have unlimited rights. Only by subjugating others and making their continued existence contingent or precarious can freedom exist!

-every billionaire

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

This is quite literally all of human history. The state rules based on one simple truth, they are the sole arbiters of violence. Might makes right kinda thing. When few rule over many, humans in power will always want more. And them taking away your freedom is their last bastion when they already have everything.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Noticing shit libs coming here arguing against anarchism because we dont try to stop problems they have, that it is not proven we would have, by making them worse.

Pointing out potential pitfalls by saying 'you could have a lesser version of this problem that a greater version of plays a large role in defining our whole shit' and then just not engaging with any response because they're just here to justify shit they know is vile and doesn't even work for the thing they're using to justify it.

Its like the whole 'what about violence?' 'why is this violence happening?' 'totally unjustified, appeared from nowhere, has no cause, you can only kill it or accept it, not prevent it. Except by violence.' 'so it violates thermodynamics?' 'No it's just people being shitty!' Argument. Super fucking done and not looking to have it again in literally every thread on left politics.

And the weird double standard, where were reckless and bad unless we have pre-planned every aspect of a system that is fundamentally about including and nurturing agency rather than imposing a predetermined thing, and done so in a way that solves literally all their problems while making it so they never have to think, they must oppose us and we're just dreaming impossible dreams.

Is there a way other than blocking users to stop seeing their bullshit? Like a thread block? Or a thread server block?

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[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lemmy. Does not. matter.

LW has like 3k regular real users max. Nothing here matters.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You matter, and you're here, so lemmy matters

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lemmy. Does not. matter.

Feels like I'm reading a recap of "Twitter isn't Real" circa 2016.

And then people began to manipulate social media in earnest, and what was posted on these sites became frighteningly prophetic relative to what would happen IRL.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

A "twitter" is a bird, and it's a well established fact that birds aren't real.

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (27 children)

How do you build such a system though? Every system is eventually exploitable. The US system of checks and balances was actually a pretty solid attempt, but it eventually fell to corruption. The USSR was a noble attempt, but it eventually fell to corruption.

How do you construct a system which has the authority to prevent corrupt individuals from oppressing others, but doesn't oppress people itself?

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Neither the USSR or the US were good attempts imo.

They both used authoritarian tactics to shut down dissenting opinions since the very beginning.

The idea here would be bottom up power, not top down.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

There was never a time in American history where checks and balances actually protected the rights of anyone. Nothing we are seeing today is new. This is how the system has always worked.

Also hierarchical authority is incapable of fighting corruption.

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[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

authority

Simple. You create a culture where that shit isn't allowed. Make each person an informed educated sovereign of themselves.

Collaborate non-coercively, by any of dozens of mechanisms, and just don't be a piece of shit. If someone is a piece of shit, abd can't be helped to not, attempt to ostracize.

And don't pretend anything bad is prevented by current hierarchy. Fuck off with that shit.

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[–] Smookey4444@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

USSR was still a state, so of course it didn't work. You need to eliminate power structures

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (11 children)

You can't eliminate power structures. You can eliminate existing power structures, but all you've accomplished is removing checks on new upstart power structures: warlords, mafiosos, charismatic demagogues.

All power ultimately rests upon the threat of violence. Eliminate the state's monopoly on "legitimate" violence, and you find yourself under the dominion of those who have the savvy to concentrate forces of illegitimate violence.

I wouldn't go so far as to say we can never reach sustainable anarcho-communism, but it's not something we'll see in our lifetimes. Premature attempts are going to result in "anarcho"-capitalistic neofeudalism.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You can flatten power structures.

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[–] Zidane@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anarchist Take On LW front page

Links to blahaj.zone

What am I missing here?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Federation shenanigans. The community is based on Lemmy.world and that's a cross post they saw (I think)

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[–] lauha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While I agree that human rights should be written in the constitution of the country, you can always change constitution.

Besides, Trump is already ignoring the law so I don't know how you would fix the rights issue.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Laws aren't the solution, dear. They are, arguably, a major tool of the problem.

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[–] Smookey4444@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 week ago

So very true. This is why government can not exist

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Break it down to build it up. It's the only way. But nothing is infallible.

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