Democrats are trying to end the shutdown. They offered to give the ACA just a year to be reassessed, but they won’t let the Republicans take health care from people. That’s their line.
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They should never have offered a one-year extension.
But more broadly, fascism should not be treated like normal, and certainly should not be funded. But I don't know what it will take to snap people out of their complacency.
Edited to remove misremembered detail about budget process.
They want to be able to campaign on it for the midterms. That’s why they were willing to do a year.
Schumer needs to stop trying to time everything around elections and just accomplish stuff so they can use it when the campaigns roll around.
Accomplish stuff? Look up how many seats the respective parties have. The democrats aren't capable of accomplishing anything, but they might be able to prevent the Republicans from taking away a few things.
You gotta get out of the mindset that the Democrats are the government. They are not. They can push a little by shutting down the government, but a majority of Americans did vote for the Republicans to be in power. The Schumer doesn't have a mandate to do anything, just a very narrow area where he can make a case that while Americans voted Republican they didn't vote for what little healthcare they have to be taken away.
Also having the voters make the final decision on whether healthcare should be taken away wouldn't be a bad thing.
It's sad that Americans on both the left and right seem to hate democracy now.
You gotta get out of the mindset that the Democrats are the government.
It would be necessary for me to be in that mindset first.
Budgets are approved every two years, so it just means people will lose their coverage in one year.
The budget process is an annual process. Not sure where you're getting the idea that it's a 2-year budget.
There are 2-year appropriations, but that's less common than the default 1-year. There are also other multi year appropriations and no-year appropriations that don't expire at all (agencies can spend the money until it's gone, however long it takes). You can read about those here.
Either way, though, Congress needs to pass a budget every year (or at least continuing resolutions).
Whoops! Thanks for the correction. I was thinking of the maximum length of time an appropriation could be used for defense spending, not general budgeting.
The Congress shall have Power ... to raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
Such better political discussions here than on Reddit
BoTh SiDeS tHo!!1
Jesus Christ, they aren't holding any line, they literally let the funding die and said "let's talk about that part later", they pacify you and by the time later comes they'll move on to the next pressing issues. Mark my words, they are not extending ACA coverage within the next year.
They literally helped Republicans take healthcare away from the American people.
"This was a very, very bad vote," Sanders said, adding that the deal "raises health care premiums for over 20 million Americans" and "paves the way for 15 million people to be thrown off of Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act."
Yes every Democrat is identical to every Republican. That was my point.
Welp…
Aged like milk.
The media can't keep up anymore.
It will be 20% now. The government won't be open by Thanksgiving, so all airlines will lose about 40% of their flights.
American airlines had a 5.5 hour wait yesterday to depart in Atlanta. They are the main hub, so they delay every other airport as well.
This will become the LARGEST blunder by a president ever if he ruins the holidays for everyone to give billionaires a tax break.
This will become the LARGEST blunder by a president ever if he ruins the holidays for everyone to give billionaires a tax break.
Votes have consequences, and America needs to eat the food it made
The government won’t be open by Thanksgiving
Welp.
In the wise words of a flag I saw in the middle of Trump country
I’m supposed to have a flight next week. It was already right on the bubble of whether I should fly or just drive. I’m not going to stand in some long ass line and get berated by unpaid TSA officers and then risk my life with unpaid air traffic controllers.
Maybe I’ll make a trip of it and even go see some friends 2 hours away from the destination.
Man, I really wish this country had trains.
I looked at the public transit option to go somewhere 2.5 hrs by car from where I live. A big-ish city (relatively speaking).
No train goes between points (or to that city at all for that matter), and the bus would take ELEVEN HOURS!!!! Fucking what??
I’d love to use public transit, but I’m not willing to take 4x as long, and 11 hours.. I could probably walk there in that time..
2.5 hours, so roughly 200km? Bikeable, if there are navigable roads and you have the health for it. Yuck at the bus option being so bad.
Lmao. This guy. 'Bikeable'
This aged like Democratic party milk.
Opposition party snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Mustve been a hell of a payout for the dems that sided with the nazis
Dems fucking caved. FOR NOTHING. Stupid motherfuckers.
Eight did. The rest seem to be a furious as we are.
No, those are the eight scapegoats who have a full four years before they have to run for re-election, meaning they can wait for this to blow over. The party leadership wanted this, but they didn’t want to be seen voting for it because they know it’s wildly unpopular. There’s a reason those 8 were the ones who voted yes; None of them are up for reelection any time soon. They had a back room meeting and were promised some future concession in return for taking the fall for this. No more, no less.
This comment should be its own post.
The DNC betrayed the american people as far as I can tell.
"seem to be" is right.
But they're not.
Apparently Chuck Schumer already knew those 8 Dems will cross the aisle.
Yeah. That "seem" is doing some heavy lifting.
Stop it! They always do this, they always have just enough traitors to take the blame, and everyone else is furious. Not furious enough to do anything about it, not furious enough to keep talking about it, just furious enough until next week and then they'll be buddies again. The party uses you as rhetoric and tells you they're fighting on your behalf, but it's always the party that let's you down.
They are not stupid. The Dem leadership accomplishes every task they set out to.
The airlines should band together and cancel literally every possible route that is regularly taken by US congresscritters before they cancel anything else
They won't, because those congresscritters actually pay for the expensive business/first class tickets (from YOUR money), whereas the average people are stuck flying economy, which is simply just isn't worth running in such cases.
I can virtually guarantee you that they largely just get complimentary upgraded to first as a safety precaution rather than paying booking rates for first class flights. I valeted a car for a sitting senator not long ago and the dude rented with SIXT, which is a budget grade rental place that the average person isnt even familiar with
I can guarantee you that is not the case.
There is no safety premium for first class anyway, but while they may get a gov rate, they are not banking on an upgrade. Especially into and out of DC. Airlines don’t have a ton of first class inventory going spare in that market.
[...], I do not believe that any airports have established themselves as woke enough to become targets of conservative ire. Not even Portland International, in the home of antifa, has opened up a trans-only security line yet.
Lol
Apparently he’s right. Fucking spineless bastards.
I mean it might, just not how he thinks it will end.
Legislative issue not executive…
It was money that won, like always.
Didn’t the shutdown already end when eight spineless senate dems capitulated for promise of shit that’s never going to happen?
Yeah, this article was really poorly timed. They posted this just before it was announced that those 8 would vote to end the shutdown.
Selling false hope