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[–] fletcher_bosom@lemmy.world 224 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 week ago

Crazy fucks do that sometimes. I wonder why people still listen to them.

[–] FarrellPerks@feddit.uk 159 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Owner of surveillance apparatus reckons we should all just chill and accept total surveillance"

This fucking dude.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 30 points 1 week ago

Like seriously, in what reality are these two things NOT mutually exclusive? Also doesn't palantir have contracts with China?

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 138 points 1 week ago

I'd rather be a free and open society than win any kind of industrial race.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 90 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (5 children)

"It's just... We're named after the artifact the ancient evil used to peer on the world."

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (3 children)

China WILL win the AI race and that’s because they invested in infrastructure and their power grid.

The US could have done that too, but we gave the money to billionaires instead. Building a surveillance state doesn’t fix any of the mistakes we made and they’ll still win the AI race.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Not to sound like a tankie but China has made smarter decisions with regard to power generation. The current shift away from renewables (and shift back to fossil fuel) AND more reliance on central power generation are great for billionaires but just dumb for every other reason. And with the what appears to be advancing in battery technology more distributed solar cells with local storage would free up more power for the power hungry data centers. Not to mention the AI programs there are not run by douchebags like Sam Altman and Mustafa Suleyman.

I also think the current path of AGI study via more advanced LLM research is the wrong path. A language generator is never going to be “smart”. But what do I know, I don’t have billions of dollars and lie constantly.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 75 points 1 week ago (25 children)

"A surveillance state is needed to beat china who is evil because it's a surveillance state"

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[–] aliser@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

a surveillance megacorp says surveillance is good and needed. cartoonish evil.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Breaking News.

Man with vested interest in selling his services, insists buying his services is the only way to save us from the evil foreign menace

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you read his book The Technological Republic, he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state. A few historical examples to choose from would be Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China to get an idea of his vision for America’s future.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 1 week ago

Man who is the CEO of a business selling mass surveillance beyond the likes of even George Orwell's 1984 says we should run head first into a surveillance state from which he will directly profit from.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Boy I wish we as a society would stop reporting on these sociopathic vampires spouting whatever nonsense just popped into their heads

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How would you know that they are sociopathic vampires if no one reported on what they believed in?

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

By the sheer amount of accumulated wealth.

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[–] ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actual humans believe life without Palantir is preferable to China winning the AI race.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

His head on a pike would be preferrable to both.

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[–] awful_neutral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 week ago

Ahh yes. The only 2 options

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This guy needs to fuck right off.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

us winning the ai race. china winning the ai race. who gives a shit i still wont care about ai.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

"First one to rid itself of its human workforce" makes the race sound less enticing.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't wait to see this guy hanging by his left nut while people take shots at him like a piñata.

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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The what race? No one has been working on AI for a while... if he means LLMs and similar generative models there's only the race to see how long it takes for the models to be so poisoned by being trained on their own slop that they no longer can produce the illusion of giving useful results (seems like the current generation is almost there, already giving diminishing results), and the race to extract as much money as possible from the economy before the first one ends and the bubble pops...

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aliens (even illegal ones) are preferable to an asteroid strike, too.

Too bad they aren’t mutually exclusive.

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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 23 points 1 week ago

I bet you'd be able to get a great grip on his hair as you wind up with the other hand for that oh-so-punchable face.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 week ago

False dichotomy.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to ~~China Winning the AI Race~~ Palantir shareholders not getting rich fast enough

Fixed it

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you've never seen this guy giving a talk, it's worth looking at. This guy is a total tweeker. Can't sit still, and has insane thoughts he's just willing to say in public.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Punchable face.

Also, Butlerian Jihad When?

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[–] Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago

i wish i could palantir my nuts on his face

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

You're not going to beat the Chinese government by being worse than them. You beat them by helping the Chinese figure out the Chinese Government is bad. By being worse than them you just set yourself up to be destroyed the same way they will be.

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can somebody please hack this guys socials and leak all his private info so we see him eat his words?

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[–] percent@infosec.pub 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How would a surveillance state even prevent that?

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[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Look at this unfuckable loser. He's like if someone glued Steve Bannon's pubes to Steven Miller's head. "Let us destroy all freedom in the USA so China doesn't win the race to economically out-compete the USA" is as bullshit a justification as there has ever been for anything in the history of everything.

[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is Bubble-101. Before the thing exists, imagine the future...

threatening that another country will get there first combined with pure players like Nvidia, the uncertainty of whether or not it could be a good investment and being able to convince governments and investors to pump money into it.

If AGI ever becomes what they are promising, everything after 2022 should be a case study for marketing and communications students because they are doing a piss-poor job inspiring confidence and just sound like grifters.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

We are going in that direction. Data centers being built all over the place is the very foundation for tracking every human on the planet.

I think future generations will not have any ability to go online, shop, work or live without a real id tracking everything about them.

You voice your concerns about something unpopular online, you may be blocked from taking a loan or work a job. Fear of stating your true opinion will be everywhere.

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[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (23 children)

The whole reason China winning would be bad is because of their surveillance state ensuring no one gets around their curtailment of civil liberties...

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[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every day that goes by I better understand what Ted Kaczynski saw.

[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

The same people that experimented on him psychologically in college are the same people who prop up Palantir.

Not saying I agree with what he did or what you said, but facts are facts.

He was part of some of the same experiments that were a part of MKULTRA.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Some stupid ass logic

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any ways to actively help China win the AI race?

Hypothetically, of course.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

This guy is the maker of surveillance states.

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