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[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 83 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Pretty sure only aristocrats dressed like that.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 41 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

And wasn’t the makeup to hide chlamydia / syphilis etc?

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 19 points 4 weeks ago

Sure and perume was becase you didn't bathe ... And yet we still use both

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's also for the opposite? I mean, the white face, rosy cheeks and red lips were popularized due to the romantization of tuberculosis. The guy on the left could literally have tuberculosis looking at his face.

One of the many sources: https://historycollection.com/tuberculosis-became-the-victorian-standard-of-beauty/

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[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 55 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

There is absofukinglutely nothing stopping you from dressing like that, only yourself.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 31 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

They might try to stop you.

[–] iN8sWoRLd@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

As the saying goes, "no gentleman was dressed without his sword"

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[–] Konstant@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Yeeeesshhhhhhh

[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 6 points 4 weeks ago

They will fail to stop you.

[–] individual@toast.ooo 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

society, jobs, and weather?

[–] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Those are bourgeois categories

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[–] sunoc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 weeks ago

Don’t let the prospect of beheading get on the way of your dreams!

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 40 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Mark Zuckerberg, who dresses pretty much like the guy on the right, then adds a watch worth $100k to indicate his status.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

The pants shirts an hoodies the ultra wealthy wear are also often obscenely overpriced versions of the normal clothes. Like Luis Vuitton's plain tshirt, with a same color embossed logo on the front, for 700$. Or this one by Prada for 2500$ (its casmere)

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I legitimately do not understand

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[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 35 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Fashion??? In this economy?!

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

If I could suit up like in games that actually have good clothing options and don't punish you for just getting every option I totally would, but for better or worse I settle for tattered hand me downs from my uncle that I have been wearing since I was 7 or so. And some hand me ups from my younger siblings that became bigger than me as a top up to the supply.

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[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

That's was really interesting

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[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

Rich cunts then:

Rich cunts now:

Poor cunts then:

Poor cunts now:

Or to put it another way, nothing has changed. The upper classes still dress like wankers who sniff their own farts, and the lower classes still dress with whatever they can afford that works for them.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (17 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

I'm more of a summer/spring in my color scheme

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 7 points 3 weeks ago

Ladies, What's stopping you from dressing like this

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

My penis would dangle out the bottom of the skirt.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago

Noble vs peasant.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

wasn't the make up meant to hide the lesions and wigs to hide the peeling scalp and hair loss?

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Maybe we have grown out as a society of that childish one-upping each other with made up rules?

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

Have you met society? Society is a petty bitch!

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Please tell me there’s a /s in there somewhere.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't you ever insinuate i have boring socks ever again.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Who's got boring socks? Not me, sir. 😤

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[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 9 points 4 weeks ago

The “now” person is a peasant, not man. Put some eyeliner on, at least!

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Try it, you get lots of shit. I'd know.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I do find it weird there's been this resurgence of fixation on superficial motifs being associated with masculinity, but the guys who parrot these views all have an appearance that screams, "I want to blend in and be invisible!"

Nothing masculine about tepid conformity.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Rich guys wearing really dour clothes is actually a relatively recent phenomenon in history. Up to the French Revolution the aristocrats were peacocked up to the max; maybe it was fear of the guillotine that saw their successors going around in North Face jackets.

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[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Remember, the Roman's thought pants were for the effeminate easterners.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 6 points 4 weeks ago

The title is implicitly responding to someone who thinks, "fashion is an important part of masculinity, and it's immutable," but has nothing to say to someone who thinks, "fashion is an important part of masculinity and can change."

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

That there is a dandy

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I think they dropped a word there. I think "rich" was the word they dropped......

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

that's a part of it, however during the Victorian time. it became fashionable for men to be stoic and boring. that's why a guy can wear the same outfit for a meeting, a wedding, and a funeral.

although wealth is a big factor. it isn't the whole story. a good suit can cost a lot and still be fashionably bankrupt.

And if you try to put some flare, they will question your sexuality and distupt the corporate dynamics.

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[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Tbh men like me are a step away from becoming cats and I would love to just be a cat. Every step we do that progresses men becoming cats is fine for me.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 4 points 4 weeks ago

I don't want it to be like it is, but it do

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Call me a sissy but t-shirt and cargo pants for life!

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 weeks ago

You've obviously not been to a goth club recently ;)

[–] yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

My socks are not boring, excuse me!

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