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They are supposed to be grown from spores, so what use are ork nipples?

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[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You see this discourse come up from time to time in other fantasy settings. I remember there being quite a stir over whether lizardfolk in other media should have breasts.

I'm not deep into the Warhammer lore, but there's a few things I know about orkz:

  • They grow from spores like a fungus
  • They were manufactured by some other race as a sort of guardian caste
  • They have potent psychic powers that manipulate reality around them

My theory is that the folks who created the orkz had nipples themselves. Impressionable young orkz saw that their creators were fully grown and had nipples, so maybe they thought they ought to get some as they mature. If they believe that should happen, then it'll find a way to happen.

Later orkz would have seen that the previous generation of orkz had nipples, so they would continued growing in this way.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have potent psychic powers that manipulate reality around them

I read once that this is why they paint their vehicles red. Because they believe that red makes it go faster, and with their latent psychic ability, the red ships actually DO go faster, because they believe so strongly in it.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Mhhh this has norhing to do with 40k lore, It's just empirically proven that red vehicles go faster

[–] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... honestly, the most likely argument is that they saw other races and collectively assumed they ought to have nipples too (oi! why dem pink skins 'ave dots on em? Orkzz ought 'ave em too!! wauuugh) also and so they manifested them. now its just part of their genetic code and none of them ask why anymore.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Orkz are no strangers to krumpin' gitz because they aren't Orky enough though. Even their own clan. I find it hard to believe they'd be easily peer pressured into having nipples, let alone by other species.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That's not peer pressure, that's cultural osmosis. If other species tried to force them to have nipples, then they would resist

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they can be milked, obviously.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"I have nipples, Grelnak, can you milk me? It may sound like sarcasm, but it's a genuine request. I'm getting quite swollen"

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This one right here, commissar.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well they're an evolutionarily manufactured race, so likely the base template had them originally but post intervention they remained as a vestigial organ.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... A lazy creator? That tracks.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, what exactly would be the point of dedicating the effort to removing them?

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

Lore hasn't clarified it officially but I suspect their nipples are just a specialized form of squig.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Boring answer:Because it's a game made by humans. Same reason the na'vi from avatar have boobs.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What use are nipples on males?

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmmm. Can't say I've licked one personally, but I see what you're seeing. I guess I meant an actual use for them. More of a rhetorical question I guess.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess I meant an actual use for them.

Licking is an actual use.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is. I wasn't being specific enough, sorry. Actual use in terms of evolutionary fitness. There are no reasons for them evolutionarily other than they are a byproduct of fetal development.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anything that makes people hornier and more likely to procreate is an evolutionary advantage.

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[–] Strider@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's the thing with natural selection though, as long as a trait isn't deleterious and it's common enough it'll generally stick around. There's no pressure for males to not have nipples.

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[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Because males were females until the right amount of chemicals were introduced to the fetus. Take enough estrogen and males can produce milk and no longer have useless nipples.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

They actually are capable of producing a small amount of milk, it's just that doing that requires so much effort for so little reward that feeding babies became the mother's job after a few thousand generations of mammals being a thing.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have been engineered by the Old Ones. So I’m just gonna assume, they didn’t think of that when the Necron and C’tan came knocking on their doors.

[–] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

psychological warfare. First thing the Necron & C'tan did in battle was hesitate thinking, "wtf? do those monsters have nipples?"

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Causing a couple of circuits to burn out. Kickstarting the Flayed Ones.

I am adapting this as headcanon now.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, human men have nipples and there's no use for them there either. Evolution doesn't get rid of things because they aren't useful anymore, it only gets rid of things when they become detrimental to the survival of the species.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Orkz didn't evolve though, they're an engineered species.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Human men have nipples because human women have nipples and human men having nipples doesn't significantly impair human men.

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[–] shasta@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where do you think orc milk comes from?

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same place you get bull milk.

[–] SinkingLotus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

With that consistency I think the milk spoiled.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the same reason why some of the Necrons have nipples: intimidation.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do Ork nipples also cut glass?

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. For Orks, it's all about size and color.

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[–] OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they're not mammal nipples, but happen to look like it.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Is there a lore reason why that mushroom has a nipple?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

If Batman and Robin can have nipples, orks can have nipples too!

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago

Which Ork models have nipples?

I can't say my knowledge of the current range is exhaustive, but I can't think of a single model that has one from the 1998 - 2016 era. There's a runtherd with a piercing where a nipple would be, but no nipple.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

what if the spores get thirsty?

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