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Snowflakes. Groomers. Cucks.

For years the MAGA movement has approached politics the way a bully would approach a schoolyard, sparring with labels so nasty, they seemed expressly chosen to appeal to the kind of people who stuffed nerds in lockers in sixth grade. And for years Democrats, abiding by the mantra to go high, not low, have responded by trying to be the adults in the room: defending themselves with facts, with context, with earnest explanations that nobody remembers (if they defend themselves at all).

The problem is that taking the high road only works if politics is a sport played mainly by people who act like grown-ups, which it is not. And also: Facts and context don’t make for particularly sticky messaging.

Enter: Weird.

Over the past two weeks, as “Brat” and coconut memes have taken over the internet and Kamala Harris inches closer to Donald Trump in the polls, the Democrats have finally gone low, deploying a bit of verbal jujitsu so delightfully petty it might just work.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 216 points 2 years ago (6 children)

i find weird and creepy to be less name calling and more fact pointing

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 78 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

i love how there are like 10 different kinds of lemmy gold

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good observation!

Take these!

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[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They are all as valuable as that other gold too!

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Let's keep up the "name calling" facts

Matt Gatez creepily traffics children
Gym Jordan is, at best, a creepy enabler of pedophiles
Mike Johnson weirdly discusses individual porn movies with his children
(I'm not trying to stick to a theme here)
Lauren Boebert seems to weirdly enjoy public indecency

yes! they key is to use factual words that these very simple, emotionally driven people understand.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 19 points 2 years ago

(I'm not trying to stick to a theme here)

Sometimes a creepy pattern just emerges from the data. :shrug:

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Also way less offensive than what they deserve.

[–] Timii@biglemmowski.win 15 points 2 years ago

For Heaven's sake, someone make this person a Lemmy Mod

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[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's missing the point. It's not effective for being name-calling. It's just saying what everyone is already thinking. Like in the 2020 debate when Biden said "Will you just shut up, man?" It was relatable because Trump runs his fucking mouth all the time.
This is the same. It's a relatable feeling - Trump is deeply weird and out of touch. Vance is so creepy people didn't even bother to check if he really wrote about fucking a couch.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 years ago

Vance is so creepy people didn't even bother to check if he really wrote about fucking a couch.

Nailed it. Pre-Trump era I would have frantically searched for a source. These days my expectations from the Republicans are so unbelievably low.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Future Presidential debates:

"Shut up you lying little bitch"

"Come make me, fuckface!"

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...deploying a bit of verbal jujitsu so delightfully petty it might just work

It's not even petty. It's just true. Republicans, with their obsessions over what's going on in everyone's pants and bedrooms, really are weird and creepy.

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[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I was annoyed at that “when they go low, we go high” rhetoric. No you kick them in the teeth. Politics is a pig wrestling competition and you gotta get dirty.

[–] Deralax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't let Shady Vance go near your couch cushions.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You mean JD Vance, the man who wrote Wet Goddess: Recollections of a Dolphin Lover under the pen name Malcolm Brenner?

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Republicans are disgusting

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So, this guy said he wants to bang his daughter back in 2016 and it took you 8 years to settle with “weird”.

Woah, slow down there cowboy!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

We called him out on it then. But man, this weirdo just took it in stride like being called a fascist by everyone from historians to neo nazis. But weird, he doesn’t like it when we acknowledge he’s weird.

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[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My only issue with using weird to refer to them is how much I love Weird Al Yankovic...

Fuck it tho.. if weird works to get under the skin of fascistsI don't think it'll hurt AL in the slightest.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago

There's good weird and bad weird.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Trump is shit. Vance is stupid. Match made in hell. Wierd just aint cuttin it, comrades

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bout damn time we give up this "We go high" bullshit

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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The primary difference being that the Dems are backing up the name calling with actual policies or things they've done.

Trump is weird bc he constantly says off the wall things, does weird shit, and supports unpopular policies (which are weird).

Vance is creepy because he believes and says super weird shit about women. Like how he believes women have to have kids to have value - that is creepy. If somebody said that on a date, there would not be another date. And how he nevertheless has no problem with childless couches - pretty hypocritical and creepy.

And from the repub side:

Schumer is a "member of Hamas" because.... it is inflamatory

Kamala is "laughing kamala" because.... she laughs sometimes. She is also a "radical democrat socialist" because.... she supports mainstream, popular, dem policies

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[–] OptiMoose@lemmy.cafe 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's less about insulting them, and more a out no longer treating them with the utmost respect. We (and by we I don't just mean lefties) should have called them weird when they called themselves the the tea party, but we handled absolutely insane rhetoric by trying to meet it from a place of thoughtful and respectful academic discussion. It was always the wrong strategy.

That said it could very easily backfire. Going to far would look really childish. I think weird really hits home with how most reasonable people feel about these guys.

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