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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Americans pay more for healthcare than any other country, for worse results than any country with universal single-payer healthcare. Moving to the same model as Canada or the UK would mean paying less for healthcare, and getting better healthcare.

Which is obvious once you understand how private health insurance works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Hold on, not all my money goes to healthcare in my for-profit healthcare system??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My friend, you've been sold a story about Canadian healthcare that is a complete lie. It's a province-based system that is in complete shambles. Just look at what Doug Ford, the premier (equiv. to governor) of Ontario has done: https://www.ona.org/news-posts/20221124-healthcare-union-sos/

What would likely work the best in the US is a system akin to Australia's. It's federal-based, and is a combination of public and private. Private health insurance still exists to cover "gap" fees and similar, but, similar to medicaid, low/no-income earners don't pay. America is already doing most of this, but nationalising most hospitals would be required, as well as forcing private health insurers to divest ownership of other medical clinics. This would be to eliminate the inane "in-network" crap, which we don't have in Australia (for the most part).

Doctors here aren't employed by the government like with the NHS in the UK either. They're able to run private clinics, and can charge above the government "bulk-billing" rebate. That government rebate is set nation-wide for all services in a master price-list, and is always paid out for those services whether the patient has private health or not. Then the provider and insurance negotiate for what is paid above and beyond that only. This gap fee can be paid directly by the patient, or by private health insurance. Clinics generally waive these fees for both disability and aged pensioners.

It's far from perfect, but I think the US would need to follow a system like this. Otherwise doctors, used to a certain wage and lifestyle, would likely revolt in some fashion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Its not the doctors who are reaping the benefits its the insurance companies and hospital administration that make most of the money

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Man, why are Republicans so fucking stupid? Even the greediest toplofty would benefit more from universal healthcare than they'd lose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The thing that really grinds my gears about neoliberal capitalism is that isn't even good at capitalism. It is just mathematical fact that healthy and happy workers make you more money, and are more than happy to work harder for luxuries (that, by the way, improve your consumerist economy) than stressing themselves into an early grave over necessities, all while breeding more workers for you to exploit.

That's not even getting into the kind of moronic system that rewards CEOs for selling off productive company assets and calling it record profits, bonus please!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Like yes taxes go up, but also you’re already paying for health insurance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Your taxes would go down, actually. The federal government pays more now than they would with a Single Payer healthcare system, because it turns out allocation and claim management for hundreds of millions of people, and allowing insurers and pharma to be price-makers, is more expensive than just giving the hospitals what they need on a regular basis.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Funny how Reagan ran on fiscal responsibility, gutted social programs and then spent all that money on military crap and subsidies for industrialist pals. It's never been different. Even the tea-party was miserly about social programs but happy to give the military everything it wanted (but not to improve the DVA and things to improve the lives of soldiers were right out.)

And yet somehow who's going to pay for it is regarded as a valid argument even though these social programs would be a tiny fraction of what we spend on our toys for killing people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Reagan didn't just spend the money from social programs: he changed the US from the biggest creditor nation to the biggest debtor nation to fund the military.