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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 145 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This makes sense if cruelty is the point.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 62 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cruelty, yes, but let's not forget grift.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

And cognitive dissonance. Gotta redraw those lines in the sand!

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not just cruelty. Someone else in another thread pointed out this is exactly what you would do if you're afraid of a civil war. Now, you've got an easily defended government center, and a large amount of people out in the streets that any opposing force will have to fight through in order to get to any of the governmental buildings (though really, we're only caring about the WH). Additionally, you have an oceanfront escape route if shit goes poorly.

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[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 73 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s never about the cost. It’s always about the hate.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Same as it ever was.

The Cruelty Is The Point.

They'd put all the money in a literal pile and set it on literal fire before they'd just help people who need the help.

If I had to characterize the US govt when it comes to helping its citizens I'd compare it to Immortan Joe.

Immortan Joe: Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago

the stupid thing is, scandinavia mostly cured their homeless problem. They put up homeless apartment buildings, then assisted them to reintegrate into society, by getting a job, finding a place to live etc. They.... saw the humanity and helped them achieve something. Oh, but the USA would never help people down on their luck. Ugh.

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm very supportive out housing the homeless as a fix, but to be clear math is on a per-day basis, it isn't some sort of long term fix.

I hate these stupid math headlines that don't actually make any sense.

Current deployment costs are around $1.1 million per day, housing all of those people in shelters at $45 per person works out to something like $250,000 per day.

This math calculation entirely ignores the fact that there aren't enough shelters to actually do that.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would other costs go down over time? Housed people don’t need emergency healthcare nearly as much, and with a permanent address that would open doors to a lot of things.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

I can’t believe you would forget the interests of the shareholders here

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 25 points 3 months ago

It's a simplistic calculation, but it does seem that often doing the right thing ends up cheaper in the long run. It just doesn't benefit certain groups, so it's not an option. If a million a day was applied to not just pay for sheltering, but to find solutions there wouldn't be a problem to throw authoritative measures at, or use as a reason to tighten security and control. They don't want to fix the problem, it works for them.

[–] sznowicki@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When communist were forced on Poland by soviets in 1945 one of their tasks for the next decade (that continued until 1980 collapse) was to build houses and give it to people. Other tasks were less nice like killing opposition, but housing was indeed how they decided to spent the resources.

US could start a massive communal housing programm on federal budget. They chose not to.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Cruelty is the point. I really don't think this country will ever change in any positive direction, sadly.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The point is to 'test run" military protection around the White House.

[–] joker125@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

This. They know that none of this is sustainable on a the grand scale.

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[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nominative determinism strikes again.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 3 months ago

Even without the occupation, housing-first costs less.

The End of Policing.

According to Need

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

countless after countless studies showed UBI will eliminate homelessness and wasteful bureaucracy to keep watch of welfare recipients and cheats

Everyone: Nah, we don't do that here.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

What a waste.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Breaking news Trump is a moron

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

People say these facts, but not the base fact that all these facts prove which is that this lifestyle and the narrative created is completely bullshit and we are being farmed. That's our reality but it's so fucked up nobody wants to believe it. Psychological warfare owns the path of society.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure but helping the homeless would make them actual Christians following the teachings of Christ and we know that now what Republican Christians do.

[–] SwimmingInTheeStars@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump only ever claimed to be Christian to sell bibles.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

The man is world famous as a money mismanager

[–] gointhefridge@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

What would happen if we just fixed stuff. Like, the wealthy can still have it all, but then stuff wouldn’t be broken. Just like, fix things. When is someone going to step up and just pay to fix stuff?

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[–] abies_exarchia@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the top 2 comments i see ascribing this to ‘hate’ and ‘cruelty’ are missing the point. This literally is better for the capitalists’ bottom line. This can be entirely attributed to profit. The threat of violence (homelessness, etc) that the working class is kept precipitously close to powers this whole machine. If everybody was housed the threat of poverty would have less material consequence. Cruelty is not the point, in this case. Neither hate. Simply profit. Which in many ways is much more cold and insidious

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What is actually happening to homeless people in DC at the moment?

The article is a bit vague. Some arrests, tickets?

I imagine far worse when the national guard is being called to specifically address this issue. Overall I am hearing little about the fate of the ones being targeted by the grey shirts. Does anyone have more info for an interested party?

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Eric Adams Syndrome: Spend $1,500 to save $1

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

"Showy? Useless? Expensive? Hurts poor people? Sounds pretty good but are you sure there is no way to put a yuge golden TRUMP sign on it?"

Trump (probably)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 3 months ago

president "epstein" trying very hard to shift public focus away from himself, and the fact that ghislaine being on work release isnt gaining more attention is something.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Trump is a moron.

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

The cruelty is the point

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

He was never that good at numbers, that Donald guy.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah but with that 4x budget they get to look like what they think is cool, they get to be openly racist fucks and they get to enact their cruel fantasies!

Money all worth!

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