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“(With) today’s Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed. For all practical purposes, there are virtually no limits on what the president can do. It’s a fundamentally new principle and it’s a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law even including the supreme court of the United States.”

Throughout his address, Biden underscored the gravity of the moment, emphasizing that the only barrier to the president’s authority now lies in the personal restraint of the officeholder. He warned vehemently against the prospect of Trump returning to power, painting a stark picture of the dangers such an outcome could pose.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He’s so pissed about it he’s gonna do absolutely nothing!

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I like how every single one of these comments are blaming Biden and the Democrats for a supreme court ruling that the conservatives and Republicans enacted. How about we put the blame on the people who are actually doing the terrible things?

This is why the Republicans keep winning btw, because they're united.

[–] swunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Why doesn't Biden just illegally overturn this ruling? He has immunity

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then fucking do something about it Joe! The DNC has been little more than passive observers to the raise of fascism.

[–] teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The DNC" doesn't do what you think it does.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't do what it should.

The point of the party is supposed to be long-term strategy and putting the platform over any one person.

When people talk about what the DNC should be doing, it's not some "gotchya" to point out that they're not doing their job and leadership needs replaced.

It's just proving their point

[–] teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So because the National Committee's short and long term strategy is not what you'd be doing, you think they're not doing anything.

Do you do any local political organizing?

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Since we're talking about a SCOTUS ruling, it would be on Congress to pass legislation.

And to follow up on @teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world's comment, the Democratic National Committee is a private party organization that supports Democratic candidates in elections. They have nothing to do with passing legislation.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still. The DNC has systems in place to decide who to back in elections to pass legislation. Their messaging since 2015 has been embarrassing. They keep courting moderate conservatives that don't exist and ignoring unrepresented potential voters who do. They talk about how they win elections when there's good turn out without ever analyzing which candidates encourage high turnout. Americans want to feel represented in politics and we don't. The Democrats need to do something that would weaken the democrat party but would weaken the Republican party more: they need to actively begin dismantling the two party system. We want election reform. We want the police to not be a hostile force against the general populace. We want the society we live in to benefit everyone and not just the kinds of people who can afford to finance an election campaign.

The polling exists. We all know that neither party represents or enacts what the people want do. The Democrats refuse to look around and see what's happening, preferring to rearrange the deck chairs as the ship sinks because that's the only thing they know to do. And you know? I can't really blame them. We the people have also been rearranging the deck chairs. We live in a country that only benefits the top but we all still show up to do our duties without looking at what's going on in other countries where the people are standing up to their authoritarian oppressors.

The worst part is the fascists know what they're doing. They know to decay the structure by raising the temperature because we've become too complacent. We need to stand up to fascism in a way that we haven't ever since McArthyism.

[–] teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The DNC has systems in place to decide who to back in elections to pass legislation.

No it does not.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Then what the fuck is a primary and how do they decide to back in a primary and what the fuck is a super delegate?

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's on Biden to personally demonstrate to SCOTUS just how dangerous the ruling was.

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[–] urfavlaura@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

okay assasinate Trump, you're legally allowed to do that now

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That would be confusing for the secret service.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is to stop Biden from cancelling the upcoming election?

Being now his powers are effectively unchecked, couldn't he just call off the election as an official act. Rather than stupid shit like ordering assassination or deploying the military, just say "I'm cancelling the election until such time this ruling is overturned and a constitutional amendment is enacted that states that the president is not immune from criminal prosecution"

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need someone that will use every tool at their disposal to stop trump.

Biden has shown time and time again, that's he's just not willing to do that.

Stopping trump is more important than Biden, if he won't fight, and he won't get out of the way, and the party won't force him to...

It's time to ask why we still support the party. The voters are the irreplaceable part, not the party.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem with that, is now "every tool at their disposal to stop trump" is an object lesson in exactly what Biden is talking about.

'Every tool' means Every tool

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[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"In my view, we need a strong Republican Party. We need a Republican Party that’s united."

-Joe Biden (~2011)

The man is just incompetent and nostalgic for the "good old days" when Dems and Republicans would play grab ass together and hoodwink the public together to protect the status quo and grow the wealth divide. This whole fascism thing, though clearly signaled decades ago, has him scratching his head. He simply doesn't get it and is too mentally calcified to keep up with the paradigm shift in politics.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wasnt trump still a Democrat back then? It's like people never change.....wait ...

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Biden hasn't changed though. He's still the same old pro-austerity, pro-corporate, "respectably racist" Republican-at-heart conservative he's always been. You just can't see it because Trump is so much more extreme.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok Biden, time to do something about these fascists. They just gave you everything you need to squash the threat, on a silver platter fit for a king. It’s time to process the new information, understand the powers granted to you, and act - are you up to this task? Please don’t let America down, because you have asserted yourself as the only one who can now do anything about it.

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fire a Justice..... Or you know a couple.....

Out of a cannon.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden: The Supreme Court ruled I can do ANYTHING I WANT!

Also Biden: So I will do NOTHING! Please Vote kthxbai!

[–] ExFed@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, because he actually cares about what the Constitution stands for, not just some adversarial power game. Claim the paradox of tolerance all you want, but fighting fire with fire here is just participating in the same race to the bottom that's destroying our democracy here in the USA.

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